AaCee26 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/7/2021 at 12:53 PM, Giorgio N said: The Fujimi kit was well moulded, with very fine recessed panel lines.. apart from a few that for some reason were raised. I built the kit many years ago and I seem to remember that there was something wrong with IIRC the wing leading edges, with one higher than the other or something similar. Cockpit was very bare, Pavla offers a resin replacement aimed at the Airfix and Heller kits, don't know if this would fit the Fujimi offering. My memories of the Fujimi from the kit was new 35 uears or more ago was state of the art surface detail, very simplistic cockpit interior and landing gear - like they were designed for totally different models. Also trailing edge was partly quite thick IIRC. Shpae issues I don't remember any more. Cheers, AaCee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaCee26 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) On 7/7/2021 at 12:50 PM, Giorgio N said: In terms of mould quality I'd still take a Heller Alpha Jet over the recent KP SF.260. Granted, the latter is a short run kit, but others have shown that it is possible to have short run kits without flaws and scars all over the plastic, have clearly defined small parts and details and even make then fit well enough to compete with certain mainstream products. The Siai was nothing like it and reminded me of moulding quality of a couple decades ago. If the future KP Alpha Jet will be more similar to their Bf.109 series, then will be a different story and a well buildable kit, Guess that the type of mould quality will depend on their sales expectations, Of course we'll only see it when the kit hits the shelves... Contrary to the SIAI, this time I'll let others buy the kit first and wait for their assessment. I'd agree with Giorgio as long as the model is basically accurate - which the first subtypes of the AZ/KP Bf 109s were not. I waited for the Special Hobby SF 260 and after building it I would comment the fiddling of the wing to the place and a wedge on the top of the cowling to wide it a little in the front for better fit with front and lower cowl. Surface and smaller parts are mostly fine. Cheers, AaCee Edited July 8, 2021 by AaCee26 Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Durbon Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 hours ago, MiG-Mech said: What ? 🤔 Oh, I confound it with the JaboG 43. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) AFAIK all previous released 1/72 kits are based on the prototypes, with different wing profile and sawtooth compared to the serial Alpha Jet. The Matchbox kit looks like based on a very early Alpha Jet mockup. This picture (1/48 scale) shows the different position of the sawtooth. The modifikation was needed for better handling during flight (stall). Edited July 8, 2021 by JayBee Image added 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieGolf2009 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 It would be rather nice if Kovozávody would contemplate the Portuguese Air Force's Alpha-Jet A SEA wraparound scheme as well. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hothersall Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 If the Canadian boxing has markings for C-GJTA, C-GLTO or C-GITA, I could be convinced to get this kit as I have seen these three Alpha Jets flying around when they were here in Australia in 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 3:43 PM, Taylor Durbon said: Oh, I confound it with the JaboG 43. 😉 Was this related to the 1991 Turkey deployment? Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertone139 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 2:24 AM, JayBee said: AFAIK all previous released 1/72 kits are based on the prototypes, with different wing profile and sawtooth compared to the serial Alpha Jet. The Matchbox kit looks like based on a very early Alpha Jet mockup. This picture (1/48 scale) shows the different position of the sawtooth. The modifikation was needed for better handling during flight (stall). So, which one is correct for a production version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Robertone139 said: So, which one is correct for a production version. OOTB? None in 1/72nd. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertone139 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 12:14 PM, Robertone139 said: So, which one is correct for a production version. Andre, you must clearly have a reference to compare those two lines. Where would be the correct dogtooh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Robertone139 said: Andre, you must clearly have a reference to compare those two lines. Where would be the correct dogtooh? Kinetic is correct. The prototypes had the dogtooth further outboard and landing lights on the leading edge of the wing. Hoops 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 23 hours ago, Robertone139 said: you must clearly have a reference to compare those two lines. These are the best Alpha Jet references in my possession: https://www.scalemates.com/books/dassault-breguet-dornier-alpha-jet-a-teil-1-aircraft-german-armed-forces-adjp-005-bernd-vetter-frank-vetter--104319 https://www.scalemates.com/books/alpha-jet-a-jp-4-die-flugzeuge-der-bundeswehr-8-bernd-vetter-frank-vetter--110553 https://www.scalemates.com/ja/books/dassault-dornier-alpha-jet-aircraft-in-detail-018-duke-hawkins--129601 Recommended! Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Some more box arts Source: http://www.modelarovo.cz/alpha-jet-a-e-1-72-kp-kovozavody-prostejov/ Alpha Jet E Alpha Jet 1B/B+ Alpha Jet A Alpha Jet A Alpha Jet A V.P. Edited July 23, 2021 by Homebee 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Nice mix! I wouldn't say no to the classic German splinter and Belgian SEA. Cheers, Andre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeradej Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 A couple of weeks ago I did suggest on a Nigerian Alpha Jet A on their FB now they are making it happen. What a good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinBK Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Wrong seats on the box art for Belgian, Nigerian and German aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) - ref. KPM0264 - DDB Alpha Jet E - In French Service https://www.kovozavody.cz/produkt/alpha-jet-e-in-french-services/ https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/KPM72264 - ref. KPM0265 - DDB Alpha Jet A - Canadian Top Aces https://www.kovozavody.cz/produkt/alpha-jet-a-canadian-top-aces/ https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/KPM72265 - ref. KPM0266 - DDB Alpha Jet A - Bundesluftwaffe https://www.kovozavody.cz/produkt/alpha-jet-a-bundesluftwaffe/ https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/KPM72266 - ref. KPM0267 - DDB Alpha Jet A - QinetiQ https://www.kovozavody.cz/produkt/alpha-jet-a-qinetiq/ https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/KPM72267 - ref. KPM0268 - DDB Alpha Jet - International https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/KPM72268 - ref. KPM0269 - DDB Alpha Jet - Over Africa https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/KPM72269 V.P. Edited November 12, 2021 by Homebee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) Sprues. Source: https://www.modelarovo.cz/novinky-kovozavody-prostejov-a-az-model-na-rijen/ V.P. Edited September 24, 2021 by Homebee 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain goat Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 I've never built any in-house neo Kovozavody Prostejovs before - I started an ex-RV MiG-21 build once, wasn't impressed, sold it on & since held the belief that KP are usually rather difficult builds. Am I correct in this assumption or are there also good or fun KP kits out there? Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivand Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Homebee said: Sprues. Source: https://www.modelarovo.cz/novinky-kovozavody-prostejov-a-az-model-na-rijen/ V.P. Is it just me or does anyone else have the impression the parts seem to be carved out of solid soap (with corresponding detail)? 🤔 I mean, doesn't the moulding quality seem eerily reminiscent of their SF.260 of late? Edited September 24, 2021 by ivand clarification 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On 16/07/2021 at 14:37, Hook said: OOTB? None in 1/72nd. Cheers, Andre From memory isn’t the Airfix wing profile correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivand Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) I think so. There was another snag, however. The flap track fairings were moulded integral to the pylons. These were separated only in the later release. Here 's some history. Edited September 24, 2021 by ivand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 23 hours ago, Homebee said: Sprues. Source: https://www.modelarovo.cz/novinky-kovozavody-prostejov-a-az-model-na-rijen/ V.P. Some of the parts look heavily "inspired" by the Heller kit: Landing gear? I'm lookin' at you. Others, look like they're taking their cues from the Airfix kit: Wings, Fuselage, Tanks Pylons, pretty much everything else all look pretty "similar" to the old Airfix molds. Cheers, Hoops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisz Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Disapointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Schilhart Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 3:46 PM, Mountain goat said: Am I correct in this assumption or are there also good or fun KP kits out there? A totally mixed bag. Some of their new releases - like the 1/72 Tempest and the 1/72 Lavochkin La-5 - are smooth builds. Sometimes, the box contains a re-box of old Smer/Heller moulds. scalemates.com is a good source to identify the origin of the contents. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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