Back in the Saddle Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Lord Riot said: I’ve always used blu-tack stuck over odd shaped windows, pushed to the exact shape and size with a cocktail stick or blunt end of tweezers. Very Heath-Robinson but it seemed to work. Sounds like a good solution! I’ve heard from Tony, so will hopefully get his photos posted on here later. Looking forward to seeing the details of the u/c bays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Alan P said: That looks like a tidier solution compared to the old kit, there will still be seam lines but at least the leading edge is one piece. Still, a lot of work! I'm leaving these for now, but will fettle them soon! I'll report back with some pictures and see how they look once completed... In the meantime, here are the undercarriage bay pictures from @avro683 - thanks Tony! Some nice details there - painting the bays can continue! Thanks again to Tony for providing the photos - I think they will be appreciated by quite a few builders!👍 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I take it that the smallest panel that is hanging down in the pictures is normally up and is only down for "maintenance purposes"? Gondor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, Gondor44 said: I take it that the smallest panel that is hanging down in the pictures is normally up and is only down for "maintenance purposes"? Good spot! I would assume so, given there are gauges in that area - it doesn’t look as if that panel would need to open to allow the undercarriage to transit up or down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 52 minutes ago, Gondor44 said: I take it that the smallest panel that is hanging down in the pictures is normally up and is only down for "maintenance purposes"? Gondor correct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avro683 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Back in the Saddle said: I'm leaving these for now, but will fettle them soon! I'll report back with some pictures and see how they look once completed... In the meantime, here are the undercarriage bay pictures from @avro683 - thanks Tony! Some nice details there - painting the bays can continue! Thanks again to Tony for providing the photos - I think they will be appreciated by quite a few builders!👍 My pleasure, I hope that they are of use to everyone. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 So are the gear bays white, light grey or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 White, but due to the lack of lighting they look darker… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy350 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Back in the Saddle said: White, but due to the lack of lighting they look darker… What are your plans for weathering, I think you mentioned about using some "dark dirt", when I am too minds if to use thinned black oil?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avro683 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) The pictures were taken on Thursday afternoon in searing hot temperatures with bright sunlight, neither of which are helpful when taking photographs. The aircraft is painted in the same 44 squadron scheme she was in on arrival from Waddington in February 1983; I wasn’t there but I really wish I was! Dark Sea Grey/Dark Green camouflage over Light Aircraft Grey. The bays are very definitely white, the contrast in real life is actually greater than it looks. There is a tan coloured panel to the rear of the retro fitted raised Doppler radar (which is Light Aircraft Grey). I should have taken a picture of that also; that may explain why the transfer on the kit sheet is tan. It needs trimming because it shouldn’t cover the raised panel, which needs to be removed (as has been written elsewhere) if the kit scheme A is being modelled. Edited July 20, 2021 by avro683 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulaero Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 hours ago, avro683 said: The pictures were taken on Thursday afternoon in searing hot temperatures with bright sunlight, neither of which are helpful when taking photographs. The aircraft is painted in the same 44 squadron scheme she was in on arrival from Waddington in February 1983; I wasn’t there but I really wish I was! Dark Sea Grey/Dark Green camouflage over Light Aircraft Grey. The bays are very definitely white, the contrast in real life is actually greater than it looks. There is a tan coloured panel to the rear of the retro fitted raised Doppler radar (which is Light Aircraft Grey). I should have taken a picture of that also; that may explain why the transfer on the kit sheet is tan. It needs trimming because it shouldn’t cover the raised panel, which needs to be removed (as has been written elsewhere) if the kit scheme A is being modelled. Nice work Matt, I have started the major assemblies on mine , was just trying to decide which A/C to complete ??? Newark's 594 was logical, as I am only 20 minutes from there but I have a bigger version in mind for that...... However a visit across the runway on Sunday has brought the decision to 575 resident in East Midlands Aeropark in Wrap round DSG / Green. By the way Newark's Vulcan is Medium Sea Grey on top. I can get to either fairly easily (20) minutes if you want any other references Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 12 hours ago, Andy350 said: What are your plans for weathering, I think you mentioned about using some "dark dirt", when I am too minds if to use thinned black oil?? Hi Andy. I'm using a Flory wash (dark dirt to be specific) to pick out the details - photos coming up... If you don't have that, you can used thinned paint of the appropriate colour to make your own wash, just make sure the original paint is completely dry before trying this, otherwise you will probably cause the original paint to come off... 11 hours ago, avro683 said: The pictures were taken on Thursday afternoon in searing hot temperatures with bright sunlight, neither of which are helpful when taking photographs. The aircraft is painted in the same 44 squadron scheme she was in on arrival from Waddington in February 1983; I wasn’t there but I really wish I was! Dark Sea Grey/Dark Green camouflage over Light Aircraft Grey. The bays are very definitely white, the contrast in real life is actually greater than it looks. There is a tan coloured panel to the rear of the retro fitted raised Doppler radar (which is Light Aircraft Grey). I should have taken a picture of that also; that may explain why the transfer on the kit sheet is tan. It needs trimming because it shouldn’t cover the raised panel, which needs to be removed (as has been written elsewhere) if the kit scheme A is being modelled. Thanks Tony. Photography in those conditions is never easy - too much contrast is often an issue... Thanks for the info about the tan coloured panel too.👍 7 hours ago, Paulaero said: Nice work Matt, I have started the major assemblies on mine , was just trying to decide which A/C to complete ??? Cheers Paul. I was intending to go with the camouflage scheme, but reserve the right to go all white at a later stage! 7 hours ago, Paulaero said: I can get to either fairly easily (20) minutes if you want any other references Thanks very much for the offer - I might take you up on that!😀 Armed with Tony's pictures, work on the u/c bays has continued. Firstly a dark wash, as mentioned above, to pick out the recessed detail: It looks awful at this stage, but once wiped clean I picked out some other details and brush painted those: The bays were then assembled: And clamped into place: The nose gear did not fit desperately well, needing three clamps and a shim to fill a gap: Work on the intakes is next, then I can get the top of the wing glued into place and see how it looks. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 The bays look pretty good to me. The clamps look useful also, I’m still using wooden clothes pegs and should probably upgrade. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkie Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Back in the Saddle said: And clamped into place: The nose gear did not fit desperately well, needing three clamps and a shim to fill a gap: Work on the intakes is next, then I can get the top of the wing glued into place and see how it looks. a veritable clamp fest, Any more clamps in your arsenal Matt? 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Those undercarriage bays look amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 21/07/2021 at 08:04, Biggles87 said: The bays look pretty good to me. The clamps look useful also, I’m still using wooden clothes pegs and should probably upgrade. Thanks John. I use clothes pegs all the time too, but have a few other clamps for larger jobs - I think they've all made an appearance in this build! On 21/07/2021 at 11:22, Sparkie said: a veritable clamp fest, Any more clamps in your arsenal Matt? 😁 I haven't used my micro clamps yet - this models is too big for those! 😆 On 21/07/2021 at 17:51, Lord Riot said: Those undercarriage bays look amazing. Thank you. 👍 The intakes are now built and awaiting a round (or two!) of filling and sanding. No photos of this yet; I'll pop some up when I get this stage finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy350 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Hi Matt, really sorry, just noticed I had post into your thread by mistake, I have now removed these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 2:04 AM, Biggles87 said: The clamps look useful also, Yes, indeed. Who makes those snazzy hi-tech clamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 25/07/2021 at 11:54, Andy350 said: Hi Matt, really sorry, just noticed I had post into your thread by mistake, I have now removed these. No worries! 🙂 On 25/07/2021 at 12:22, Space Ranger said: Yes, indeed. Who makes those snazzy hi-tech clamps? Hi Michael. They are all made by Amtech - I searched on eBay a while ago for "ratchet clamps" and found them that way. I'm sure normal shops supply them too.👍 Like @Andy350, I am also working on my intakes. Having built them, I gave all the joints a good coating of Mr. Surfacer 500: I've spent a while sanding the insides with a pencil wrapped in 240 grit paper and am *nearly* happy with them! I'll leave the photos until they're actually done...!😁 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) On 7/18/2021 at 10:21 PM, avro683 said: I’m still trying to work out how to get mine loaded, using One Drive. I’m not seeing an embed option when I open the relevant file. You need to log into the OneDrive website rather than your pc’s file manager. Then select one of your pictures (it will show a tick) and click on embed. It’s easy after that. Edited July 26, 2021 by Bertie Psmith typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) On 7/20/2021 at 10:03 PM, Back in the Saddle said: The bays were then assembled: The two round things on the roof of each mainwheel bay are servicing lights that came on when the Houchin was plugged in. They were white, like the one in the nosewheel bay, with a black base which would be well represented by a wash. The NWB one is perfect. Edited July 27, 2021 by Bertie Psmith 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back in the Saddle Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 57 minutes ago, Bertie Psmith said: The two round things on the roof of each mainwheel bay are servicing lights that came on when the Houchin was plugged in. They were white, like the one in the nosewheel bay, with a black base which would be well represented by a wash. The NWB one is perfect. (I used to be a Leckie on Vulcans) Thanks Bertie, I’ll change the colour to white and add a wash around them as you suggested.👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy350 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Back in the Saddle said: No worries! 🙂 Hi Michael. They are all made by Amtech - I searched on eBay a while ago for "ratchet clamps" and found them that way. I'm sure normal shops supply them too.👍 Like @Andy350, I am also working on my intakes. Having built them, I gave all the joints a good coating of Mr. Surfacer 500: I've spent a while sanding the insides with a pencil wrapped in 240 grit paper and am *nearly* happy with them! I'll leave the photos until they're actually done...!😁 Great progress Matt, looks a lot easier doing this before fitting. Also did the pencil wrapped in grit, works well, better then the dremel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avro683 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 9:46 PM, Bertie Psmith said: You need to log into the OneDrive website rather than your pc’s file manager. Then select one of your pictures (it will show a tick) and click on embed. It’s easy after that. Thanks Bertie. I’m back at Newark today 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAT'71 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 9:46 PM, Bertie Psmith said: You need to log into the OneDrive website rather than your pc’s file manager. Then select one of your pictures (it will show a tick) and click on embed. It’s easy after that. Can’t find ‘embed’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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