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This photo was sent to the F-4 Phantom forever group a number of years ago by an Air Force pilot named Don Jay. The photo was taken August 1969 at Korat RTAFB Thailand. All credit goes to him.

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Quite a few aircraft were painted in colors and like during WW2 was for someones personal ride. Also check out this website. https://www.aviationarthangar.com/spunkyvif4.html for some additional photos. Zotz decals number 48046 has a nice set of this squadron. Believe these are still available.

F-4E Korat Zotz 48046 artwork

Also have a shot of the other side of 680313

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This should clear some air. I try to have visual proof of the subject I craft. Especially if it contains a certain drawing or art work.

All The Best

Ron VanDerwarker

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First picture show the variation of paint fade between the nose and body. It looks like the tail was replaced as the tan on it is much darker than the fuselage below.

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@f111guru - useful pictures thanks.

 

@neil5208 - I see what you mean about the tan on the fin but the two greens also on the fin appear to have the same level of fading as the paint on the fuselage; in fact there looks to be some respraying underneath, behind,  the JJ marking.

 

Thinking back to the funny green/tan which appeared on some SEA camo a/c, it was often that patch of tan on the fin which appeared to be resprayed on the Phantom. Maybe there was an equipment fit in there which necessitated a local bit of touching up. Maybe @Gene K could shed light on the matter?

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Interestingly enough Betty Lou underwent a similar repaint job- light green near the exhaust was touched up too

 

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54 minutes ago, steh2o said:

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Interestingly enough Betty Lou underwent a similar repaint job- light green near the exhaust was touched up too

 

Definitely respraying being done, maybe due to tail code change and they did further touch ups.

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What I've heard and read over the years can make perfect sense when viewing photos like these. The USAF and the Air Divisions that were controlling the aircraft movement in those areas would replace aircraft on some sort of schedule. Whether it was from being shot down or for a schedule airframe inspection. Those inspections would take many months to do and would have a replacement aircraft from the facility to replace that aircraft. So a new tailcode would be painted on after it arrived. Then the other would be to fix frame damage from being shot at. Quite a bit battle damage repair was done in country. Saw enough of it at Udorn. The 388th TFW did move from Vietnam to Korat RTAFB Thailand but do not know when or from where. They were in Korat when I passed through there to drop some people off and then went on to another Air Force base.

 

When I got to Udorn late June 1972 our aircraft as with the 432nd's aircraft had the slim light, strip light installed as part of a technical order upgrade. Those pictured above do not and have the original short muzzle fairing. Great pictures for a modelling subject. To go along with your completed project.

 

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Ron VanDerwarker

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On 7/1/2021 at 8:00 AM, iainpeden said:

Maybe @Gene K could shed light on the matter?

 

When it comes to myriad Phantom camo paint variations:

 

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:sorry:

 

Gene K

 

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I can still hear that line in my head. One of the great many shows.

 

Ron VanDerwarker

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On 6/30/2021 at 4:20 PM, f111guru said:

This photo was sent to the F-4 Phantom forever group a number of years ago by an Air Force pilot named Don Jay. The photo was taken August 1969 at Korat RTAFB Thailand. All credit goes to him.

MyF-4E-68-0313-34 TFS-Korat-0869-Spunky VI-dj-c

Quite a few aircraft were painted in colors and like during WW2 was for someones personal ride. Also check out this website. https://www.aviationarthangar.com/spunkyvif4.html for some additional photos. Zotz decals number 48046 has a nice set of this squadron. Believe these are still available.

F-4E Korat Zotz 48046 artwork

Also have a shot of the other side of 680313

F-4E-68-0313-34 TFS-0470-dj

This should clear some air. I try to have visual proof of the subject I craft. Especially if it contains a certain drawing or art work.

All The Best

Ron VanDerwarker

 

A quick question, how common was that load out on the first phot? Mk.82's with fuse extenders on in the inboard pylon and fuel tank on the centre?   

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@Billy54I can only say what was happening at Udorn RTAFB the last half of 1972. As a young dumb airman I loaded what was delivered without question. It wasn't until later I asked what the difference was between loads on different aircraft. It was told that the load depended on the target the cell was going after. The extended bombs what ever the size was meant to explode above ground for the maximum fragmentation possible. The majority of munitions I remember loading were mk-82 and M117's. Followed by CBU-58's and M-36 clusters. Not a whole lot of rockets or AIM-9's. All the aircraft loaded and launched had at least 2 AIM-7's and ALQ-87 and ALQ-101 ECM pods. I can say that stations 1 and 9 or the outboard stations had 370 fuel tanks. I can remember only twice changing the centerline ejector to a soft ejector foot. This was used for the 600 center tank. Don't ever remember seeing the outboard stations loaded except in training.

 

So as to answer your question, before 1972 I would guess quite a bit. Most of the photos were taken in country. Others such as the top flying out of Korat had tanker support to and from.

 

I remember reading and hearing news reports of a munitions shortage and had seen photos in books about the air war Vietnam showing partial munition loads on F-4's and F-105's.

Hope this helps.

 

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