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6 hours ago, Six97s said:

I like this colour, any suggestions for a reasonable match without having to mix something?

 

 

Gravity Spain have quite a few metallic/pearl colours, nearest I can see being these;

 

https://gravity-colors.com/model-car-paints/140-17-gc-2326-bmw-sapphire-blue/

 

https://gravity-colors.com/model-car-paints/133-03-gc-2259-lamborghini-azzurro-thetys/

 

https://gravity-colors.com/model-car-paints/108-17-gc-245-porsche-liquid-metal-chromblau/

 

https://gravity-colors.com/model-car-paints/140-15-gc-2325-volkswagen-marathon-blue/

 

Always worth looking on google images for the colour name as pics of it on a car give a much better idea of the colour than paint in the bottle. And if you do order from Gravity make sure it's Gravity Spain, NOT the U.S. one!

 

This might be fairly close too;

 

https://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/product/10ml-kitten-blue-pearl-mr-color-avc-04/

 

Keith

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Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into those.   I've used Halfords metallics in the past, but some end up looking like metalflake at this scale.

 

The Cobra is in another GB:

 

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11 hours ago, Six97s said:

I've used Halfords metallics in the past, but some end up looking like metalflake at this scale.

 

 

Indeed, I only use full size car paint if it's a pearl or mica now. I've not used Gravity metallics so don't know what their flake size is like. 

 

Keith

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4 hours ago, Six97s said:

Next job is some intricate painting on the 8-lug wheels.  Read about them here, if such things interest you...

 

https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2019/11/29/a-1960s-classic-the-pontiac-8-lug-wheel/

I already knew about them but it was still cool to read and filled in some stuff I didn't know.

 

As a general observation, drum brakes can be OK, or they can be pretty dire.  I'm not sure how much depends upon how well maintained the original car is, and how much upon the fundamental disadvantages of drum brakes.

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4 hours ago, keefr22 said:

 

Nice colour - what's the flake size like, looks OK in the pic?

 

Keith

 

Not bad, it's nothing like, say Purple Velvet where the flake is really obvious (it was with the can I had anyway)..  I'll probably leave it as-is rather than clear coat it; the shine is about right.  I used it on the interior too, because that's almost the same shade and has a similar metallic appearance.

 

1 hour ago, johnlambert said:

I already knew about them but it was still cool to read and filled in some stuff I didn't know.

 

As a general observation, drum brakes can be OK, or they can be pretty dire.  I'm not sure how much depends upon how well maintained the original car is, and how much upon the fundamental disadvantages of drum brakes.

 

I haven't had much experience with drum brakes, but the worst was a '67 Firebird with unassisted drums all round. It stopped, but didn't seem like it would...  no pedal feel or progression at all, you put your foot on the brake and it just felt like there was a solid block under the pedal.  😦

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14 hours ago, Six97s said:

I haven't had much experience with drum brakes, but the worst was a '67 Firebird with unassisted drums all round. It stopped, but didn't seem like it would...  no pedal feel or progression at all, you put your foot on the brake and it just felt like there was a solid block under the pedal.  😦

I've always liked the 1967 Pontiac FIrebird.

 

As for drum-braked cars, I apologise for the blatant name dropping.  The most memorably terrible were in a Jaguar XK120; rather than a hard, dead pedal the pedal seemed to go almost to the floor with very little effect on the vehicle's speed.  Oddly, the Jaguar C-type (a customer car with drums, rather than a disk-braked "works" model) had perfectly adequate brakes.  As an aside, I've also driven an early Series 1 Jaguar E-type and although the brakes aren't great by modern standards, you could see how they were a world a way from the 120's drums.

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On 31/07/2021 at 14:17, Six97s said:

Next job is some intricate painting on the 8-lug wheels.  Read about them here, if such things interest you...

 

https://autouniversum.wordpress.com/2019/11/29/a-1960s-classic-the-pontiac-8-lug-wheel/

 

Two and a half years later... @Spiny's thread made me dig this out.   The wheels bothered me, because they were a pig to paint (edit:  I'd wrongly assumed they were also too large, as they fit standard AMT tyres, but the OD is about right).  Now I have a 3D printer, I'm revisiting some stalled projects with a view to printing the parts that led to the thing being parked..

 

I've drawn the wheel with the outer rim/trim ring and centre/brake drum as separate parts, so it will be much easier to paint.  I've roughed in a Firestone 825-14 tyre, but I'll print one as a test before I add any extra detail.

 

65GP26-vi.jpg

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Some tweaking needed, but I'm fairly happy with that for a first attempt. I didn't really expect the lettering to be resolved, but everything else worked.   I did a quick mock up with the tyre and I think it looks more convincing than the skinny kit tyres, though the whitewall groove appears deeper in the photo than in reality.  🤔

 

8lug03-vi.jpg

 

8lug02-vi.jpg

 

8lug04-vi.jpg

 

 

 

 

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I'm glad my build encouraged you to get back to this one - it's always good to see how other people tackle the same subject.

 

I have to say as well that I think yours is going to end up looking a lot more realistic than mine when we're finished - mine might not be completely out of the box but any modifications will be minimal. As for the wheels, I know I want the rear wheel arch covers on it, and this will affect my final choice of wheels. I'd love to go with the Mags, but suspect they will prove too wide and I'll end up with the stock wheels.

 

I do like the colour you've chosen too, it works very well on the big beast.

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