Graham Boak Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Difficult to say, it rather depends on how used the subject you are modelling is meant to be, and I think the photo could be clearer. Ideally, to my taste. perhaps a little bluer would better match photos of these aircraft and other types in Temperate Sea Scheme. I think you could claim that the blue sky was distorting the colour in these photos... of course, we are talking about operations from Northern Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 08/07/2021 at 21:01, Graham Boak said: Difficult to say, it rather depends on how used the subject you are modelling is meant to be, and I think the photo could be clearer. Ideally, to my taste. perhaps a little bluer would better match photos of these aircraft and other types in Temperate Sea Scheme. I think you could claim that the blue sky was distorting the colour in these photos... of course, we are talking about operations from Northern Scotland? Sorry to say I am one of those people that only sees plain colours, as Grey is Grey apart from being Light or Dark and something inbetween. I for some reason cannot see different hues within a colour. Anyhow I have now added some Blue to a Dark Sea Grey and painted this as seen below. Any better? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 That looks rather like RAF Ensign Blue, which is perhaps a bit over-egging it a bit, although I did use an old tin of Airfix RAF Ensign Blue for a Malta Spitfire which might have been faded EDSG. (Actually, Dark Mediterranean Blue. Can't win them all.) For a well-used aircraft, perhaps. There are photos of TSS aircraft showing something very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 I think that I did add a bit more Blue than I originally meant to and then re-added some more DSG. Will give one last attempt tonight with less Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Jabba, this particular model build stage is often one where we tend to doubt what we've done and I've been there on all of my recent builds of late. When I queried 'the look', other members on here told me to stick with it as the model will look very different with decals applied and masking removed. They were all right and I'm glad I just pushed through and finished the model(s) through to the finishing line. Looks great so far. Cheers.. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 Thanks @Rabbit Leader for those words of encouragement. Anyhow a different coat of paint applied and this is how it will stay. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 Airfix instructions say to paint the front of the engine cowlings Black, is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I noticed this too, yes some did have the collector rings painted over. Maybe as an anti-corrosion technique perhaps? Same on SEAC Beaufighters too by looking at period images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Not anti-corrosion. The black paint was a flat, stove enamel type of paint that was used to hide the glow of the hot collector ring while flying in low light conditions. It was also used by Bomber Command on bombers that were fitted with Bristol radial engines. White Coastal Command planes with Bristol radials used a white enamel on their rings to help hide the patrolling aircraft. Chris 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 Thank you very much@dogsbodyfor that explanation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 A little reading on the subject: Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 Masking all removed and just a few touch ups where Black paint had got under the masking where the panel lines are. A few coats of Klear applied and now already for decals. I have also started to make up the torpedo. A question or 2 about the big fin thing at the back of this. Is it fitted one way up as the instructions do not say and what is it for? I have figured that it is for the separation from the carrier aircraft and then detaches once it has hit the water. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 This is the Monoplane Air Tail and it was required to allow dropping the torpedo at faster speeds and greater heights than the old biplanes could manage. It made the torpedo fly level and enter the water at the right angle. I presume that there is a right way up and a wrong way, but if the instructions don't mention it then presumably it is modelled without distinguishing this feature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Thanks for the tip on the collector ring. I will do that on my TF.X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 There’s a useful picture of the air tail fitted to a torpedo on a Beaufighter on this site. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I've got this, from Aviaeology: Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 Thank you all for your answers about the tail fitting for the Torpedo. I will fit it with a slight nose down attitude as shown in the drawings and pictures. All larger decals applied last night, strange how there are none fitted to the underneath of the aircraft. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Looking fantastic, @Jabba! Great finish and I love how you've done the EDSG - it looks spot on to my eyes for an aircraft that's seen use but isn't worn. I've got four of these kits in my stash, various boxings for various versions, and although I'm itching to get started I'm also a bit nervous! I only hope I can do as good a job as you! Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 Thank you kindly. A bit of weathering and the matt finish now applied. Hopefully I will be fitting the U/C soon. i do have a question in that what colour is the inside of all the light fitment areas. I personally was thinking Interior Green, but if someone could point me in the right direction I will be very grateful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 U/C now added and the Nav light areas prepped for the glazing, although I am not sure how well they will fit. There maybe some adjustments required. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 All finished now and thanks to all who gave advice with this build especially the camo colours. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Looking really good. This isn't that important. However I thought I would point out the TF-X only had the navigation lights on the wing tips. I know it is the case on my build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 May I ask which Nav lights you mean as i do not really know this aircraft and I was only following the instructions. I can still change a few things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The navigation lights are the red and green ones. The clear ones at the back of the tips were removed in the later ones. I'm checking with an expert and will post when I have clarified it. These planes changed a lot over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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