RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Hi all, My latest project idea Is a string of Fitters. My question is about the conversion of a Modelsvit kit to the long nose version. Are there any conv kits out there? Thanks. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Hi, what would you consider as "long nosed"? The bulbous "dropped" nose , M3/M4,? Or the M2 version with the "podded" sensors,? Not sure about different airframe length though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 Hi Werner - the Su-22M2 Edit: I have the Modelsvit Su-22M (in the post) (No.72020) plus the Misterscraft Su-22M2 (No.D-45). I am thinking of putting the Mistercraft nose on the Modelsvit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 Hmmm .,.... I just found this It appears that I can get a FAP Su-22M2 from the Modelsvit Su-22M, the diffs being the engine fairing and the nose inlet..... Am I wrong? Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Not sure if there is a R-29 powered version out yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 I'll have the research a bit more. I have time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 the Modelsvit No 72020 is a Su-20, not a -22 https://www.scalemates.com/sr/kits/modelsvit-72020-su-20--997046 again a Al-21 engine. the Mistercraft Su-22M2 at least in theory should be correct. I have no idea about the plastic though, sorry! I assume it comes with the correct nose. I doubt about the engine/ rear fuselage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 oh no! I'll take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 Just in case, I found a Mistercraft "Su-22M2" for £10 including postage so I bought it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, exdraken said: the Modelsvit No 72020 is a Su-20, not a -22 https://www.scalemates.com/sr/kits/modelsvit-72020-su-20--997046 If the Mistercraft is a true -22M2 I guess I might be performing surgery on the back end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 I see now, from 3view drawings, that the Su-22M2 had not only the jet area differences but also a forward fin change, different scoops (because of the engine, I guess) as well as the longer nose. If the Mistercraft proves to be a true Su-22M2 with the correct jet engine shrouding, and is true 1/72, I reckon I could mate the two ;). I was hoping for a more simple build! :(. Now, dont tell me that the Modelsvit Su-22M3 isnt good for a Peruvian ! Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: Modelsvit Su-22M3 I have not seen a Modelsvit Su-22M3 as of yet. the Su-17M3 has the alternate engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 Oh no!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 Yes, very sad :(. Thanks for your advice, Werner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) I have the Mistercraft Su-22M3 and I'm sure I've commented on this kit before, in any case the short version is that the rear fuselage is a mix between the two variants, the profile is more similar to the R29 powered ones but with the air scoops closer in configuration to the AL21 engined aircraft... so yes, it can be used as basis for a proper Su22M2 but requires some work.. well, quite some work.... If you look at pictures of the two variants with the kit in your hands you'll see what I mean. Of course the kit is very crude, with very few panel lines reproduced by wide trenches and detail parts are almost useless but you'd be using the Modelsvit ones anyway. Edited June 7, 2021 by Giorgio N 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 These are probably the thread where the difference in rear fuselage shapes are discussed in more depth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 7, 2021 Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Giorgio N said: These are probably the thread where the difference in rear fuselage shapes are discussed in more depth Thanks a lot, Giorgio. I might rethink my strategy. If it spoils the Modelsvit M3 I might build a Russian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Moura Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 1:05 PM, Giorgio N said: These are probably the thread where the difference in rear fuselage shapes are discussed in more depth Thanks for your explain!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 Oops .... sorry to mislead you all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, RidgeRunner said: Oops .... sorry to mislead you all Us, or mostly yourself? The Su-20 is a different story@ You can even do two in West German markings....ad they received them from Egypt.... Poland, Syria also had some! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Not sure about the designation Su-20A, that I've never seen before, in any case a Su-20 would be an export variant of the Su-17M, with the same AL-21F engine. Users included Poland, Egypt, Syria and Iraq. Modelsvit have issued a kit for this variant so there would be no need for any conversion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 @Giorgio N and Werner @exdraken The Su-20A designation is Peruvian I think. So, it looks like I can simply use the Modelsvit kit with the longer nose? For absolute certainty this is the variant I am talking about: Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I built the Sukhoi S-32MK (factory designation of the Sukhoi Su-20) prototype with fixed wing with a OEZ 1/48 scale Sukhoi Su-7.I scratch built the spine using plastic tubes.Modelsvit makes a 1/72 scale kit of the S-32MK hybrit. Saluti Giampiero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: @Giorgio N and Werner @exdraken The Su-20A designation is Peruvian I think. So, it looks like I can simply use the Modelsvit kit with the longer nose? For absolute certainty this is the variant I am talking about: Martin in the rest of the world this version is called somthing like a Su-22M2 I think you can see the R-29 powered fatter rear end https://www.airliners.net/photo/Peru-Air-Force/Sukhoi-Su-20/1212165/L https://www.laahs.com/the-sukhoi-su-22-in-peruvian-service/ https://www.airliners.net/photo/Peru-Air-Force/Sukhoi-Su-22M2/891164/L https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/6017618 I fear there are no Al-21 powerd Fitters in Peru.... sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: @Giorgio N and Werner @exdraken The Su-20A designation is Peruvian I think. So, it looks like I can simply use the Modelsvit kit with the longer nose? For absolute certainty this is the variant I am talking about: Martin Martin, these are pictures of the Su-22, so based on the Su-17M2 but with an R29 engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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