Boom Overture

[Max Headroom]

This seems to have been in development for years but now service entry dates are being discussed

 

https://simpleflying.com/united-airlines-supersonic-era/

 

Seems to be a mini three-engined Concorde. Will it actually make it into service?

 

Trevor

Edited June 9, 2021 by Max Headroom
Wrong company

[Head in the clouds.]

First impressions are that it could not look more like Concorde, nothing like a piggy back on the design. But I may be a little unfair as I know little about it. What government policy has changed then regarding sonic booms overland and all the other obstacles that stopped Concorde from selling? Also, with fewer seats is not the cost of said seat going to be high?

 

Confused.com.....

[Tim R-T-C]

The routes listed as transoceanic so safe for supersonic flight.

 

However I suspect this is all just PR - with moves towards fuel efficiency from most aircraft firms, this would seem to be the complete opposite.

[noelh]

Like Tim, I think it's PR. I doubt it'll ever see production. It's possible though, it's not as if supersonic passenger airliners are something new. 

 

But unless it can make money for its customers and manufacturer it's doomed to go down the same way as other fanciful projects, like Mars missions. It'll just be another entry in the 'Planes that never flew' directory. 

[Max Headroom]

There were some experiments with a modified F-5 or T-38 to delay the onset of sonic boom. Jiggery pokery round the nose was the answer apparently.

 

I see a market for this sort of thing more in business aviation but whether it would be profitable?

[Mike]

There have been so many super- or hyper-sonic and space-plane projects by British companies over the years that I've become a bit jaded and cynical about it.  Until I see one take-off and go supersonic, I think they're nothing more than pipe dreams, or money-spinners for the people involved so they can draw salary and bonuses for as long as possible.  Meh.

 

As to why they look like Concorde, it's easy and also the shape is a good shape for cutting through the air.  Whether aerodynamic technology had moved on from there in the last 60 years, I'd have thought so?  What do I know

[Sabrejet]

Aereon is/was affiliated to EADS/Airbus and so I can understand a Concorde homage if that's still the case. There were some artist's impressions a few years ago and a prototype concept aircraft in production.

[wellsprop]

2 hours ago, Mike said:

As to why they look like Concorde, it's easy and also the shape is a good shape for cutting through the air.  Whether aerodynamic technology had moved on from there in the last 60 years, I'd have thought so?  What do I know

 

Our understanding of aerodynamics has moved on, but physics and aerodynamics hasn't changed. The problem is still the same, so the solution will be pretty similar. 

 

Why does the latest A350 have the same overall configuration as the earliest B737? Same problem = similar solution. 

[Pin]

Wrong title. 

Overture is not Aereon's project and Aereon are shutting down:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/21/aerion-supersonic-shuts-down-ending-plans-for-silent-business-jets.html

 

Overture, in turn, is just another paper SST project. I am very sceptical

 

[noelh]

No surprise there. We've long reached the point, technologically speaking, where we can build almost any aircraft we can imagine. But the money isn't there to develop them and if it was there aren't enough customers to make the investment back. 

 

It's a pity, so many of these ideas are very exciting. 

[Graham Boak]

translation: nobody needs them.  We have the technology to make a model of any military/aviation/naval/civilian subject we might like, but the modelling community (as opposed to individuals) aren't interested.  Next time someone says "Subject X would make a fortune", just laugh.