JOCKNEY Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 Hi Greg Yes the instructions show the canopy open but that would involve cutting it into 3 pieces ! Absolutely intend on using the pilot, just hope my painting skills do him justice. Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Interesting. The original release included a 3 piece canopy with pins and sockets so that you could hinge the centre section to one side - either they gave up on that idea and substituted a one piece canopy or that is not the original? One of the features of this range of kits was the opening canopies on some of them but as a result they were a bit "toy like". Pete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 Thanks Pete Mine is definitely a one piece item, and it fits really well so was obviously meant for the kit, although the instructions do show a 3 piece item as you say. Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) Scalemates say that the original was released in 1962 by Revell GB and they show a set of sprues with a 3 part canopy, but that Revell (not GB) issued a reboxing with "new parts" in 1963. Perhaps that explains it! The box art appears to be identical but I note the instruction sheet says 1963. Pete Edited June 9, 2021 by PeterB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, PeterB said: Scalemates say that the original was released in 1962 by Revell GB and they show a set of sprues with a 3 part canopy, but that Revell (not GB) issued a reboxing with "new parts" in 1963. Perhaps that explains it! The box art appears to be identical but I note the instruction sheet says 1963. Pete Yes I went for the newer one ! Can't remember ever having said that on one of my builds before 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Is it my old eyesight playing tricks or is that pilot figure actually Santa? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlemaster Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Its really nice to see one of these old timers being built as it keeps the use of hope , imagination and accepting the contents of the box as is and making a kit useing giel and pure modeling skills . . good luck getting the decals to go over those rivets. Cheers Alistair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted June 9, 2021 Author Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Mottlemaster said: Its really nice to see one of these old timers being built as it keeps the use of hope , imagination and accepting the contents of the box as is and making a kit useing giel and pure modeling skills . . good luck getting the decals to go over those rivets. Cheers Alistair Cheers Alistair I was worried the old timers comment was referring to the builder rather than the kit, but it all turned out well in the end ! Cheers Pat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, JOCKNEY said: I was worried the old timers comment was referring to the builder I think (with a few exceptions) that it's pretty much a given on Britmodeller 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 12:26 PM, PeterB said: Interesting. The original release included a 3 piece canopy with pins and sockets so that you could hinge the centre section to one side - either they gave up on that idea and substituted a one piece canopy or that is not the original? One of the features of this range of kits was the opening canopies on some of them but as a result they were a bit "toy like". Pete Hi Pete, yes, now that you mention it, the one I did kind of build when cheese graters were new tools, did have a three piece canopy too... Trust @JOCKNEY, as a true Scot, to save a fraction of a six pence by buying the one piece canopy variant... It may even be worth a hell of a lot too nowadays! JR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Hi Pat, have you gone vegan and relegated your cheese and the grater it came with to the deep end of the pantry? As a trip down the lane of my failing memory, I am looking forward to see your take on this ancestor. No pressure though.... Cheers mate JR 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 hours ago, jean said: Hi Pat, have you gone vegan and relegated your cheese and the grater it came with to the deep end of the pantry? As a trip down the lane of my failing memory, I am looking forward to see your take on this ancestor. No pressure though.... Cheers mate JR Hi JR Apologies I have been wrestling with the Stirling in the "I can't believe how many parts this blooming has GB!" I will post some pictures of Gallands Grater tomorrow. Cheers Pat 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 So pictures as promised Note schoolboy error forgetting to also paint the rudder yellow ! This is the colour scheme I'm going for, but what are the modern correct humbrol colours ? Cheers Pat 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Hi Pat, 34 minutes ago, JOCKNEY said: what are the modern correct humbrol colours ? This might help a bit, can't say how good they are. US Light Green for RLM 71 Dunkelgrun sounds a bit unlikely. The IPMS Stockholm's colour chart gives conversions from RLM colours to Humbrol and is probably more accurate; http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_germany.htm Cheers, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 52 minutes ago, Johnson said: US Light Green for RLM 71 Dunkelgrun sounds a bit unlikely. Yes, it is! It looks like this: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroadkill Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I haven't got many Humbrol RLM colours but I have got 240, 241 and 242, which allegedly match RLM 70, 71 and 72 respectively, if this is any help? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Humbrol 240 = RLM 02 Humbrol 91 is still good for RLM 70, or Humbrol 241 Humbrol 116 or 163 is still good for RLM 71, or Humbrol 242 Humbrol 65 for RLM 65 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Hi Pat, i will go along with @Black Knight, but I would add anything between 70 to 100% white to Humbrol 65 for the RLM 65. Looking good! JR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, jean said: i will go along with @Black Knight, but I would add anything between 70 to 100% white to Humbrol 65 for the RLM 65. I would sort of agree with you except for I have two tins of 65 enamel and two pots of 65 acrylic and they are all different shades! From dark more grey to a lighter more blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Black Knight said: I would sort of agree with you except for I have two tins of 65 enamel and two pots of 65 acrylic and they are all different shades! From dark more grey to a lighter more blue Who ever said that life was easy? I am running out of Humbrol 65 and I haven't got enough for my 109... The RLM 65 Xtracolor is far too dark and grey for my taste... So I am left with a tinlet of Heller HG5 Authentic colour that I am sure will need tweaking... A pot I purchased in the Hague in 1985.... It should still be OK if the gods are kind. Bottom line, one uses what feels right... I hate choice!!! JR Edited July 11, 2021 by jean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Hi Jean, I know I have said this before (more than once) but some sources say that RLM65 started life as quite a bright blue and was toned down later, perhaps in 1941, and I seem to remember the same thing happening with the Humbrol Authentic version. The first one or two tins I bought in I think the 1960's were fairly similar to Hu65 but then it got a bit greyer. If yours was bought in 1985 it should be the later version I expect. Some of my early "Authentics" still work fine so I hope yours does as well. The tin of HT1 I used on my I-16 was fine, but after a couple of days it dried up, so once re-opened they probably go off pretty fast. Cheers Pete Edited July 11, 2021 by PeterB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 Some progress at last, just masking up the canopy and Adolf needs a bit of a touch up, if you'll forgive the expression ! Cheers Pat 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 I'm calling this one done, thank you to @PeterB for the decals, to everyone else for the support and encouragement, I hope you like it. Cheers Pat 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Can't quite make out the cigar Pat, but I'm assuming it's in there ! (Very nice!) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carts Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Cracking job on a truly vintage kit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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