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I'm doing an Indonesian A-4E Skyhawk for the STGB and I'm struggling with colours. The FCM decal instructions give the camo as Light Blue Grey (FS 36307), Medium Blue (FS 35184) and Light Brown (FS 36306).

Changing the blue to FS 35164 (...84 gave no results) gives me Vallejo 884 (Stone grey), 903 (Intermediate blue) and 987 (Medium grey) - no brown at all :( 

 

The first two colours look to be right, so can anyone with better references or more finely tuned Google-fu point me at the right brown?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Andy

 

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  1. Hi Andy,

 

Don't know if it is in the FS system or not but try 33307.

In the FS system, the first number is the "sheen" i.e., 1 - Gloss, 2 - Semi-gloss, and 3 - Flat.

 

The second number would be the tone (my word, for lack of a better memory!) where 5 = Blues, 6 = Grays, and 3 = Browns, 4 = Greens, etc.

 

Give it a shot until someone comes up with a concise answer.

 

Cheers,

 

WARDOG

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The FCM suggested colors seem to be OK, finding model paint equivalents is something else. In the online FCM instructions the grey is stated as 36495, not 36307:

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FS36495

http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=36495

 

FS36306

http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=36306

 

FS35184

http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=35184

 

There is a build on ARC that uses Gunze C338, Gunze EC-20 and Testors 2132:

https://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal12/11701-11800/gal11762-A-4-Sidharta/00.shtm

 

Edit:

FS36306 is close to RAL7030 Stone Grey

FS35184 is close to Flanker blue/grey

FS36495 is readily available

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10 hours ago, WARDOG said:
  1. Hi Andy,

 

Don't know if it is in the FS system or not but try 33307.

In the FS system, the first number is the "sheen" i.e., 1 - Gloss, 2 - Semi-gloss, and 3 - Flat.

 

The second number would be the tone (my word, for lack of a better memory!) where 5 = Blues, 6 = Grays, and 3 = Browns, 4 = Greens, etc.

 

Give it a shot until someone comes up with a concise answer.

 

Cheers,

 

WARDOG

Thanks Wardog, that certainly makes more sense than the colours given. 

 

Andy

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3 hours ago, Nebbor said:

The FCM suggested colors seem to be OK, finding model paint equivalents is something else. In the online FCM instructions the grey is stated as 36495, not 36307:

 

There is a build on ARC that uses Gunze C338, Gunze EC-20 and Testors 2132:

https://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal12/11701-11800/gal11762-A-4-Sidharta/00.shtm

 

Edit:

FS36306 is close to RAL7030 Stone Grey

FS35184 is close to Flanker blue/grey

FS36495 is readily available

 

A comprehensive answer Nebbor, thank you. I saw that build on ARC but I can't track down what colour EC-20 is, Google is no help at all :( It's colour P, the light brown that is causing the problem; the profile on the FCM instructions shows it as light brown and the reference panel lists it as light brown. I'll try Stone Grey and see what it looks like :) 

 

Andy

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