JWM Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Hi, After Shcherbakov I am coming to GB with another vacu by Broplan in 1/72. It is Caproni Ca 111. In "Africa GB" I am staring in parallel a double build of two another Capronis: Ca 101 and Ca 133. Both from Ca 101 kit, the first one OOB, the second as massive scratch conversion. I do hope I will manage... To be continued Regards J-W 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 This will be this scheme: or another machine from the same squadron... J-W 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 That looks nice! Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjwomack Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The projected scheme certainly looks nice, I was thinking that the base kit.looks very, shall we say, vac-form. I'm ready for another lesson in modelling excellence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 I cut out all pieces (but the tailplane, which is now under preparation of a silicone form for resin duplicate for Ca 133). I use (in most cases) the break out technique Not everywhere I was able to use it, for example not on the rudder/fin area. Anyway - the pieces are here all separated from a sheet: The parallel build of Ca 101 and especially Ca 133 in Africa GB will slow me here a bit, because Ca 133 was based mostly on Ca 111, so it is likely that some time it will be reasonable to have them on similar stage, just in case if I will want to copy something in resin... To be continued Regards J-W 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 Hi, I did some scratch work on insides: For gunner dorsal position I used parts from Ca 101, which I am converting into transport Ca 133. The portholes are thinned from Airfix Sunderland. Green is Hu 120, linen Hu 168. To be continued J-W 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 I have added alu foil with stripes on door, it was copied from Fly's Ca 101 by pressing and then glued with CA glue. Similar to Shcherbakov - fuselage snaps together nicely! Just to compare fuselage with those of her sisters, Ca 133 and Ca 101, which I am building in Africa GB. Now I should work on ventral and dorsal gun positions. To be continued Regards J-W 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Fantastic work Jerzy Got to love a Broplan Vacform Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Building three at once? Don't know how you can do it - I struggle with one! P 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 hours ago, JOCKNEY said: Fantastic work Jerzy Got to love a Broplan Vacform Cheers Pat Pat, thank you! I have some almost ten Broplan's to do and really like them. They are nicely formed thought plastic is very thin whet requires reinforcements to make the model stiff... 8 minutes ago, pheonix said: Building three at once? Don't know how you can do it - I struggle with one! P Thanks! I have found that this saves a lot of time devoted for studying the differences between variants, evolution of details - all this things you forget two years after finishing model... And saves also time for all preparation works like painting machine guns, tires, detailing cockpit etc. This gives you chance also for unify what should look the same in family of airplanes. Three kits is lot, but not too much. In stash I have I think 7 Ju-88 (inc. 188 and 388) which I want to go one time in parallel. This gives you chance also for unify what should look the same in family of airplanes. Last year I did series of He-111 (four kits: E, G, H and Z ) but later I bought the "B "to do it from Spain, and its ruined the method Cheers J-W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 That interior looks great! I’d be tempted to leave the door open too. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 hours ago, AdrianMF said: That interior looks great! I’d be tempted to leave the door open too. I am tempted too, but I have to recognize how it was opening (on photos). This will solve the problem of a bit different look of those doors compared to those of Fly kit, whereas it should be the same. Still there are some unclear stuff with this Caproni. Today I recognize for example, that there was on starboard side a large window, like in Ca 133. Another thing to recognize are large drum-like fuel tanks in wings shown on structural 3D drawings (catway) -but not on each one. So I do not know which Ca 111 has those tanks, and which not . They are here (and should be seen on top of wing surface) and here there are not present and here large tanks are inside fuselage http://www.cmpr.it/MN - Manuale Ca.111 C - FC/Caproni Ca111C 1936 MM10558-10647 (CA256) MI_Page_025.jpg But there are so nice drawings from original manual like that: http://www.cmpr.it/MN - Manuale Ca.111 C - FC/Caproni Ca111C 1936 MM10558-10647 (CA256) MI_Page_081.jpg {After some time} I looked through photos of all Caproni (I mean 101, 111 and 133) which I have and it looks that doors opens to inside, with hinges on the back (!) side. I have found three photos suggesting that. Regards J-W 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 A tailplane with reinforcement (spar like) I decided to do opened doors (thanks Adrian for suggestion! ) And the large window on starboard side The semi cylindrical structure on wall is a tunnel which hides control cables for tail. In Ca 101 they goes on outside, here in Ca 111 and letar in Ca 133 they went in such tunnel Now time for cockpit details and maybe some more details for cabin. To be continued J-W 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 I closed today fuselage PLease note open doors... To be continued Regards J-W 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 The look for today - wings glued in position, some sanding done to be continued Regards J-W 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Very nice, and I really like the help you have had with those cutaway drawings! Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 That is really impressive. Just shows how vacuforms can be made into good models (but not by me!) P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, pheonix said: That is really impressive. Just shows how vacuforms can be made into good models (but not by me!) P Thank you, but this is simply a coquetry from your side - I've seen some your builds, and there were no problems with look.... Regards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Hi I added struts and applied paint - two layers of diluted Hu 41 as "Ivory" The remaining small pieces needed some work on them. Since there are two front coolers in kit (the same( I tried to scribe one - after applying of paint I wll decide which to use? To be continued Regards J-W 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 Finally I did instrument pannel Added spats are visible here together with some inside of cockpit. Engine is painted and openings for exhaust are drilled out. I realized, that Broplan kit has ignored many details from bottom side like window for bombardier as well as vertical bomb bays (by Lancia) and ventral gunner position. Better later then never, as people says... so I started t o do this. The national colors are applied on tail (some corrections needed) The cooler and prop are prepared, prop of course will rotate since I added shaft That is all for today about progress on Ca 111 Regards J-W 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 I made the prop free to spin Time for canopy. I did a mistake - in vacu kits it is the reasonable to cut fuselage a bit outside the canopy, do some additional construction to glue it with some nearest parts of fuselage and then you can do all filling and sanding work outside canopy. Since I have not done it this way I decided to resign from the kit canopy and do it using scratch windows, done one after another. This can be attractive alternate in case of Caproni - the windows should be totally flat, whereas in vacu canopy they were not that much sharp. I started with side windows. Then sides of windscreen and the middle of windscreen. This was a middle of the work: Glued very carefully with Tamiya low viscosity (liquid poly) glue, then enforced with CA (liquid) then some filling of gaps done with gelly CA glue. The all connections were sanded with a fine sanding stone (in hand, not machine) and gloss varnish was applied to remove any scarfs of surface Then I will paint the frames. To be continued Regards J-W 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, JWM said: I made the prop free to spin Time for canopy. I did a mistake - in vacu kits it is the reasonable to cut fuselage a bit outside the canopy, do some additional construction to glue it with some nearest parts of fuselage and then you can do all filling and sanding work outside canopy. Since I have not done it this way I decided to resign from the kit canopy and do it using scratch windows, done one after another. This can be attractive alternate in case of Caproni - the windows should be totally flat, whereas in vacu canopy they were not that much sharp. I started with side windows. Then sides of windscreen and the middle of windscreen. This was a middle of the work: Glued very carefully with Tamiya low viscosity (liquid poly) glue, then enforced with CA (liquid) then some filling of gaps done with gelly CA glue. The all connections were sanded with a fine sanding stone (in hand, not machine) and gloss varnish was applied to remove any scarfs of surface Then I will paint the frames. To be continued Regards J-W Lovely workmanship on the glazing. You make all this look very straightforward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Top man, can't beat a spinning prop 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Beautiful canopy work. Regards, Adrian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) Thanks! I am approaching to rigging and looking through the photos of Caproni 111 in net I have found interesting difference between the Peruvian later variant (I think Ca 111 Idro originally, then serving on wheels) and earlier Regia A eronautica Ca 111 C. The Peruvian one has rigging among all struts, whereas RA one pair of struts are not rigged, moreover in Peruvian has additional short vertical struts. This additional reinforcements apparently were needed for sea service (and catapult?) of on float variant. The Peruvian one: the RA photos here: https://www.congedatifolgore.com/it/29-marzo-1923-nasce-la-regia-aeronautica/ for camparison. I am still not sure about the ventral MG position - cannot find any photo or drawing on this... J-W Edited May 19, 2021 by JWM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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