keefr22 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 I like that G...!! 👍 K 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Thine Rhino rocketh. 👍 Cheers, Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 That matallic tail looks great Giorgio. I have some Model Master metallics which I've not yet used, and although I've had them for some years, checking the jars, they seem just fine. Must give them a try! Good save on the outer wing. Very annoying when that sort of thing happens. T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Great save on the overspray. Looking top notch. 👏👏👏 Johnny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Red Sox Fan Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Concur with Johnny @The Spadgent—great save G! Looking awesome—best, Erwin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Very nice finish on the tail end Giorgio, very nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Decals ????? Well done Mr G !! Sincerely. CC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 That's already a menacing looking Phantom Giorgio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 26/06/2022 at 21:35, keefr22 said: I like that G...!! 👍 K Glad you do, Keith! On 26/06/2022 at 21:50, Navy Bird said: Thine Rhino rocketh. 👍 Cheers, Bill Thank you Bill, much appreciated! On 26/06/2022 at 22:30, Terry1954 said: That matallic tail looks great Giorgio. I have some Model Master metallics which I've not yet used, and although I've had them for some years, checking the jars, they seem just fine. Must give them a try! Good save on the outer wing. Very annoying when that sort of thing happens. T. Thank you Terry! I think Model Master Metallics are among the most durable paints ever - and great for buffing! I think you'll like them On 28/06/2022 at 00:13, The Spadgent said: Great save on the overspray. Looking top notch. 👏👏👏 Johnny Cheers Johnny, thank you! On 28/06/2022 at 00:44, VT Red Sox Fan said: Concur with Johnny @The Spadgent—great save G! Looking awesome—best, Erwin Thanks Erwin On 30/06/2022 at 08:31, CedB said: Very nice finish on the tail end Giorgio, very nice I'm glad you approve of, Ced! On 05/07/2022 at 00:23, corsaircorp said: Decals ????? Well done Mr G !! Sincerely. CC Yeah, sometimes I use some of them.... 22 hours ago, Cookenbacher said: That's already a menacing looking Phantom Giorgio It is indeed Thanks Cookie Gosh, it's been a while! What with life and this heat and all... Anyway, I'm about to leave for my hols, next Friday (or is this Friday? Please @CedB help me out here ... ) and I wanted to manage at least some marginal progress. I had a conversation with a fellow modeller about the metallic tail end and I realized that I should have expanded on that a bit more. First off, another pic of how I left it last time: Not easy to render with a pic, but the bottom metallic sheeting is darker than the side one. Still, I didn't want to go with - say - Titanium, which to my eye is very dark at this scale, but I didn't imply that work in this area was finished. In fact, the initial idea was to play with filters and hues and weathering after the decal stage, but going back to my previous F-4 builds made me decide to anticipate at least one of the steps. So I airbrushed some Tamiya smoke in selected areas, masking some panels and adding some effects Here with some "scraping off" and here with random pattern "regular" weathering will follow in due course. Meanwhile, I also did some very minor detail painting (all by brush), such as the red inner surfaces for the movable surfaces and the blade antennae on top of the spine I did also give a black base to the fin navigation light - I'll paint that with Clear Red only once the build is almost completed. Not sure I'll be able to fit in more bench time before I leave. At any rate, all comments welcome. Ciao 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) Nice work on your Phantom, and I'm very interested to see how you're doing the heat-stressed metal parts! I have a Fine Molds Short-Nose F-4E I'm currently working on. I used Model Masters Burnt Metal on the tail pipes (hand-painted) and was pleased with the results (they came out quite dark, but I liked the effect). I love Model Master Metalizer paints as they work brilliantly with my Badger 150 airbrush. I normally use the non-buffing paints, though. Are the Metalizer paints even available any more or has Rustoleum (ulcers on their soul!) quit producing them? I know they've seriously culled the rest of the Model Master line, at least the enamel part (oh, how I thoroughly detest acrylics for airbrushing!). Regards, Jason P.S. I answered my own question - the Metalizer paints do appear to still be in production. Maybe. P.P.S. Looking at photographs of the F-4, the tail pipe nozzles were quite dark, so I think I got them right. Edited July 12, 2022 by Learstang Additional comments added. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I’m loving the work on the metallic tail but I think my favorite bits are the little red g F lashes. Beautiful. ❤️ Have a great holiday dear boy. Johnny 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsaircorp Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Enjoy your holidays Giorgio !! Do you want us to stand a watch at your home ?? We used to do it for our dear @Martian..... Well done on the Toom !! Well, we are waiting for the next post.... So far, I use Alclad but I'll give AK extreme metal another try !! Far niente, nel sole, que bella cosa fratellino Vino i antipasti ..... Even in Belgium.... We are used to it.... Sincerely. CC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Looking good from here Giorgio. Have a great holiday mate. Stay safe. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Hi Giorgio. I hope you are keeping well. That really is beautiful modelling in progress there! As always, I am so impressed with the amount attention you put into every stage of your build. Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Hues and lustres par excellence Giorgio. This: On 11/07/2022 at 21:19, giemme said: how I left it last time: being a particularly heavenly composition from Studio Giemme. I remain your humble fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 Hmmm, been quite a long time since I updated this.. 😎 I just got back from my hols, so inbox first: On 11/07/2022 at 22:48, Learstang said: Nice work on your Phantom, and I'm very interested to see how you're doing the heat-stressed metal parts! I have a Fine Molds Short-Nose F-4E I'm currently working on. I used Model Masters Burnt Metal on the tail pipes (hand-painted) and was pleased with the results (they came out quite dark, but I liked the effect). I love Model Master Metalizer paints as they work brilliantly with my Badger 150 airbrush. I normally use the non-buffing paints, though. Are the Metalizer paints even available any more or has Rustoleum (ulcers on their soul!) quit producing them? I know they've seriously culled the rest of the Model Master line, at least the enamel part (oh, how I thoroughly detest acrylics for airbrushing!). Regards, Jason P.S. I answered my own question - the Metalizer paints do appear to still be in production. Maybe. P.P.S. Looking at photographs of the F-4, the tail pipe nozzles were quite dark, so I think I got them right. Thanks Jason I buy Model Master paints form a Polish online store, they seem to have them in stock quite regualrly. Have you posted a WIP of your build? On 11/07/2022 at 23:44, The Spadgent said: I’m loving the work on the metallic tail but I think my favorite bits are the little red g F lashes. Beautiful. ❤️ Have a great holiday dear boy. Johnny It's the little details, right? Thanks Johnny! On 12/07/2022 at 00:03, corsaircorp said: Enjoy your holidays Giorgio !! Do you want us to stand a watch at your home ?? We used to do it for our dear @Martian..... Well done on the Toom !! Well, we are waiting for the next post.... So far, I use Alclad but I'll give AK extreme metal another try !! Far niente, nel sole, que bella cosa fratellino Vino i antipasti ..... Even in Belgium.... We are used to it.... Sincerely. CC There has been a lot of vino, antipasti, pasta, pesce, carne, dolci... the full monty, basically Thanks CC On 13/07/2022 at 12:16, Spookytooth said: Looking good from here Giorgio. Have a great holiday mate. Stay safe. Simon. Cheers Simon, thank you I did in fact have a great time On 14/07/2022 at 12:12, PlaStix said: Hi Giorgio. I hope you are keeping well. That really is beautiful modelling in progress there! As always, I am so impressed with the amount attention you put into every stage of your build. Kind regards, Stix Thanks Stix, much appreciated On 14/07/2022 at 18:30, TheBaron said: Hues and lustres par excellence Giorgio. This: being a particularly heavenly composition from Studio Giemme. I remain your humble fan. You are way too kind, Tony - thank you No modelling yet, I just checked in to say hi, but normal service will resume shortly, so stay tuned Ciao 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, giemme said: No modelling yet, I just checked in to say hi, but normal service will resume shortly, so stay tuned Egads you sound like me! Which is probably not a good thing. Onward! We need more Spooks. Cheers, Bill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 On 02/08/2022 at 21:02, Navy Bird said: Egads you sound like me! Which is probably not a good thing. Onward! We need more Spooks. Cheers, Bill Alright, alright, here we go: stabilators received a coat of AK Extreme Steel on the central panel, top and bottom For some reasons, the second pic shows the contrast with the aluminium areas much better - it's actually exactly the same for both sides, it must be the light in the first pic. Anyway, the outboard portions of the stabs were masked and received a Tamiya Flat Black base coat, prior to airbrushing the relevant camouflage color. Again, this was sprayed to obtain an uneven coverage Same with the tail chute door: I then assembled the PE air brakes I primed them with Mr. Metal Primer-R (by brush), base coated with Tamiya Flat Black and painted FS36118 outside (Lifecolor Dark Grey) and Italeri Insignia Red inside, all by airbrush I wanted the red to look quite dull, so I didn't base coated with white, as I would normally do. All the above parts received a protective gloss clear coat - no pics though, sorry Next I decided to tackle the canopies, in particular the rear one: you may remember that on the HASEGAWA kit I replaced the "hunch" with a resin cast copy of the FM kit. Obviously, the hinges slots are spaced differently in the two kits: I didn't bother checking which one has it right - from a very quick glance, it looks like FM has it closer to the real deal, but maybe not perfect. Anyway, I sawed off the hinges marked the new spots carved them and glued in some replacements, from 0.5mm plasticard, using TeT I took me a second attempt to position one of the hinges right. Anyway, after trimming them to the correct length, I did a quick dryfit: Cool, right? Well, not really: upon removing the tape, I noticed that the glue had leaked under it and frosted a part of the canopy. And doing some cleaning up of the newly added hinges, one of them broke off: So I resorted to plan B, which was of course a better idea To wit, cutting away the back canopy from the one-piece alternative supplied with the FM kit: This way the hinges are already spaced correctly and, as a bonus, the Eduard PE frames designed for the HASE canopy fit just fine. Speaking of which, I tried to glue them on using clear UV resin and a UV torch: It even worked! So I glued in the other two, representing the locking mechanism The whole canopy received a protective bath in Alclad Aqua Gloss; next job will be to glue the PE frames on the front canopy too. That's it for this report, all comments welcome Ciao 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Smart work with the UV and resin Giorgio. Those details will really pay off as part of the larger ensemble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Great work on those hinges. I like your preferred solution better than trying to scab on small bits of styrene. 👍 It looks like some of the AK Extreme metallic colour lifted with your tape (not a problem as you were painting over that anyway). Have you seen that issue before? I've been using Alclad II and the Gunze Super Metallics and haven't had that problem. I'd like to try the AK Extreme paints, but I'm not a big fan of paint lifting with tape. (That's why I always hated Testors Metallizer. Come to think of it, I pretty much hate all of Testors paints, but that's another story.) Cheers, Bill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 20 hours ago, TheBaron said: Smart work with the UV and resin Giorgio. Those details will really pay off as part of the larger ensemble. Thanks Tony, looks like the clear resin is a winner for this kind of job! 31 minutes ago, Navy Bird said: Great work on those hinges. I like your preferred solution better than trying to scab on small bits of styrene. 👍 It looks like some of the AK Extreme metallic colour lifted with your tape (not a problem as you were painting over that anyway). Have you seen that issue before? I've been using Alclad II and the Gunze Super Metallics and haven't had that problem. I'd like to try the AK Extreme paints, but I'm not a big fan of paint lifting with tape. (That's why I always hated Testors Metallizer. Come to think of it, I pretty much hate all of Testors paints, but that's another story.) Cheers, Bill Thanks Bill As for the metallic paint: no lifts there whatsover, I actually sanded back some excess riveting I did earlier on, which only revealed when I airbrushed decanted Tamyia Gloss Alu from a rattle can. That paint is actually very durable, and I masked on top of it after sanding back the unwanted rivet holes. As for AK, I always top coat them with Alclad Aqua Gloss before attempting any masking on them. So far, I had no trouble at all. Ciao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 48 minutes ago, giemme said: As for the metallic paint: no lifts there whatsover, I actually sanded back some excess riveting I did earlier on Excellent, thank you! Cheers, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 PE + resin + UV = success. By the looks of things. Don’t want to encourage you to go pinging-off the etch or owt G - but how secure is the bond do you think? compared with say gator’s grip and cyano. Asking for a friend….. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Glad you’re back at it dear boy. Hope you had a splendid holiday. ☀️ I come in here to get away from clear resin and what do I get? 🤣🤣🤣 looking fantastic. Johnny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.au Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 12 hours ago, Fritag said: PE + resin + UV = success. By the looks of things. Don’t want to encourage you to go pinging-off the etch or owt G - but how secure is the bond do you think? compared with say gator’s grip and cyano. Asking for a friend….. Tell your mate that he need to be thinking more about painting than resin… Fabulous work on the Phantom, the paintwork is exquisite. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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