Finemolds and Hasegawa 1/72 F-4E Phantom II - the Long Nose saga - Completed!

[giemme]

7 hours ago, Biggles87 said:

Looks like you had a busy weekend.

Stay safe.

 

John

Quite so   I even managed to mow my lawn and go for a hike on the hills nearby  

 

6 hours ago, Terry1954 said:

Starting to get those intakes "Giorgio'd" I see. We expected nothing less of course!

 

Terry

2 hours ago, Hook said:

Dare we say... "giorgeous"?

 

Yes. Yes, I think we do.

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

Thanks Terry and Andre  I'm not sure which one of the two "definitions" made me laugh more.... 

 

11 minutes ago, Gene K said:

 

Opps ... You didn't have to do all that chopping (although it's a lot of fun). All that's really required is this:

 

 

 

as shown here  -- that's for the Has 1/48 kit ... my 1/72 thread there evidently got lost in the several web-host iterations that ARC has gone through), but same process applies. 

 

Gene K

Actually, I just repeated what I did on Sandy Bay Bee, and one half of the fuselage came in already modified by you   See here:

 

If you scroll down the middle of my first post, you will find this pic

 

 

 

 

Actually, I think that removing all that plastic has its merit (besides being utterly funny  ); it's a lot easier to push in the intake interior and adjust the bottom side when you glue the bottom wing in ( or so I recall ....)

 

Ciao

 

 

[giemme]

11 minutes ago, BerndM said:

Stunning work. Looks like a very creative weekend.

Sorry Bernd, I missed your post - thank you, glad you like it

 

Ciao

[hendie]

Fine hacking sir.  

[Gene K]

7 minutes ago, giemme said:

Actually, I just repeated what I did on Sandy Bay Bee, and one half of the fuselage came in already modified by you  

But that was SIX years ago ... time moves on, and so do intakes: 

 

 

Sorry.

 

To gracefully change subjects ... your work on the splitter plates is magnifico.

 

Gene K

 

 

[giemme]

16 minutes ago, hendie said:

Fine hacking sir.  

Thanks Alan!

 

14 minutes ago, Gene K said:

But that was SIX years ago ... time moves on, and so do intakes: 

 

Sorry.

No problem - hacking plastic with the Dremel chopping bit was a lot of fun!    

 

Ciao

[rob85]

I really like that scheme G, really different from the normal phantom and great scope for weathering from that picture!

 

Nice work so far, sounds like you had a real busy weekend, hope

it was fun!

 

Rob

[Cookenbacher]

All caught up now Giorgio, wonderful work as usual! The Greek scheme is a beauty and I can't wait to see what you come up with for it.

[Navy Bird]

8 hours ago, giemme said:

No problem - hacking plastic with the Dremel chopping bit was a lot of fun!

 

No it isn't! The styrene particles mix with the resin dust that is permanently attached to my nose hairs and wifey kicks me when I snore.    👢

 

Cheers,

Bill

[giemme]

12 hours ago, rob85 said:

I really like that scheme G, really different from the normal phantom and great scope for weathering from that picture!

 

Nice work so far, sounds like you had a real busy weekend, hope

it was fun!

 

Rob

Definitely fun, thank you Rob!  

 

9 hours ago, Cookenbacher said:

All caught up now Giorgio, wonderful work as usual! The Greek scheme is a beauty and I can't wait to see what you come up with for it.

Cheers Cookie, thank you!   The Greek aircraft also presents some features that will need a good deal of scratch building to be reproduced  

 

7 hours ago, Navy Bird said:

..and wifey kicks me when I snore.    👢

Hey, that happens to me too!

... but I normally wear a mask when sanding/chopping/filing plastic....     

 

Had my first vaccine jab yesterday, so last night I was a bit light-headed (can one say heavy-headed? Not sure it's a thing in English, but that's how I felt ...) and no modelling done. I'll get back to it tonight  

 

Ciao

[CedB]

13 minutes ago, giemme said:

Had my first vaccine jab yesterday, so last night I was a bit light-headed (can one say heavy-headed? Not sure it's a thing in English, but that's how I felt ...) and no modelling done. I'll get back to it tonight

Good news! I hope you're side-effects are short-lived

 

'Heavy-headed'? Yep, why not, I don't think we have a phrase for that ('thick head' maybe) and it's a living language after all!

[giemme]

48 minutes ago, CedB said:

Good news! I hope you're side-effects are short-lived

Feeling much better already, thanks - just a sore shoulder  

 

Thank you for the linguistic advice   

 

Ciao

[bbudde]

44 minutes ago, giemme said:

Thank you for the linguistic advice   

Hello Giorgio. As the Germans like to put every english phrase or anglicism into their german language so why don't we vice versa. We have the right words for that:

1. Kater (male cat)

2. Dicke Birne

3. Schwerer Kopf

4. Brummschädel

Mostly used after night of drinking, but also for everything else that went wrong in the head temporarily.

So if that helps, you could say:" After my first vaccination I now have a dicke Birne. ()

Cheers

PS: This works also in italian speech.

[giemme]

23 minutes ago, bbudde said:

After my first vaccination I now have a dicke Birne. ()

I know this is the German translation for "thick head", but for some reason it doesn't sound right.....  

 

Ciao

[Hook]

6 hours ago, giemme said:

I know this is the German translation for "thick head", but for some reason it doesn't sound right.....  

 

Ciao

"Birne" literallly means "pear".

 

Cheers,

 

Andre (Austrian girlfriend)

[giemme]

9 minutes ago, Hook said:

"Birne" literallly means "pear".

 

Cheers,

 

Andre (Austrian girlfriend)

And yet, this is not the reason why it didn't sound right....   Keep thinking, it'll come to you....    

 

Ciao

[Gene K]

6 hours ago, giemme said:

 ... the German translation for "thick head", but for some reason it doesn't sound right.....  

Naughty, naughty. 

 

Gene K

[Hook]

6 hours ago, giemme said:

I know this is the German translation for "thick head", but for some reason it doesn't sound right.....  

 

Ciao

"Birne" literallly means "pear".

 

Cheers,

 

Andre (Austrian girlfriend)

[Hook]

1 hour ago, giemme said:

And yet, this is not the reason why it didn't sound right....   Keep thinking, it'll come to you....    

 

Ciao

Oh, I know...  😎

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

[Spookytooth]

Looks like you have been a busy bee Giorgio.

Great to hear that you have had your first jab.

I am due my second next Wednesday.

 

You all stay safe.

 

Simon.

[gota]

Oh, a double phantom build by Giemme, on kits I own and plan to build soon, I have to follow this!

 

I probably missed it while going through the first pages but is there a pattern image for those seamless intakes for the Hasegawa kit?

[Gene K]

11 hours ago, gota said:

 ...  is there a pattern image for those seamless intakes for the Hasegawa kit?

 

gota (and any others interested),

 

I don't know if I can legally or technically post a pdf here on BM (doesn't look like it). so here's a link to the pattern in my Dropbox: Click to read and then download if you want it (or change the link ending  from dl=0 to dl=1 to directly download):

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rcrscobbnj53bcr/Has 72 Seamless Intake Patterns May 2021.pdf?dl=0   . I'll leave the file up for a week - until  23 May. 

 

Print at 100% (no scaling) - and cross check the red measurement is 1.89".  The pdf is taken from my Silhouette Studio file, so if you have a cutter and want the .studio3 file, let me know.

 

Gene K

 

EDIT: The following graphic is linked to IMGUR and doesn't scale properly ... I'm working on it (the pdf is good). File should be 1320x1020.

 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2021 by Gene K

[giemme]

On 13/05/2021 at 20:21, Spookytooth said:

Looks like you have been a busy bee Giorgio.

Great to hear that you have had your first jab.

I am due my second next Wednesday.

 

You all stay safe.

 

Simon.

Greta news, Simon  And yes, I've been quite busy and getting busier - I actually started one of the two Museum build kits I received  Feeling a bit liek CC @corsaircorp, now  

 

11 hours ago, gota said:

Oh, a double phantom build by Giemme, on kits I own and plan to build soon, I have to follow this!

 

I probably missed it while going through the first pages but is there a pattern image for those seamless intakes for the Hasegawa kit?

Cheers gota, thank you and welcome on board.   @Gene K was as usual so kind to provide detailed info, I will post picture of how I apply the method while it deploys  

 

Alright, time for some pics. First off, my good friend Silvano @phantom61 lent me some important material: this book

 

 

and the Revell kit outer wings and compressor faces.

 

So now I have all I need to complete the seamless intakes for the Hasegawa kit and to scratch build proper slatted outer wings for both kits. Also, the book provides all the picture one needs for the HAF Phantoms; in particular, there are a lot of detailed pics of the interiors, and I just need to round up all my scratch building mojo and start with the modifications for the AUP version. Not quite in the right attitude though, so I did something else.

 

In order to continue working on the HASE seamless intakes, I wanted to get some other minor modifications done; so I completed the job on the flare doors, by fitting some thin plastic shims (glued with Tamiya Green Cap)

 

 

Then, once cured I trimmed them flush and added some spur gloop to make sure they'd disappear completely

 

And after some ETS treatment and polishing:

 

AOA probe: the tip of a sewing needle is just perfect to replace the blunt kit part

 

Glued in with CA form the inside

 

Then I thought of starting the molding process: first attempt with Oyumaru

 

It took a few rounds to get the compressor faces mould right, while the two parts mould for the outer wings came out just rubbish - probably beyond the limit of such moulding medium.

 

So I resorted to regular silicone moulds; I thought of trying to add a black pigment to obtain a grey resin, so I put a drop or two of Tamiya Flat Balck into the mix. This was the result:

 

 

 

The detail was there, but the resin surface was oily and, what's worse, the resin remained very soft and bendy. The compressor faces wer a total no-go, though:

 

So I tried again, without adding any color

 

Not as good in terms of details, and the starboard outer wing came out quite thin.

 

Splitter plates come out OK

 

The compressor faces were once a gain a total fail, I think I'll have to resort to a silicone mould for them too. With the excess resin, I did cast another "hunch"

 

More casting in sight, but I think I will focus only on the outer wings, to get a decent set as a base for the modifications I have in mind.

 

Miscellaneous bits: the arrestor hook for the HASE kit got some PE detailing

 

The square opening for the pressure gauge on the FM kit was better refined

 

I tried the glazing technique with Formula 560 Canopy Glue to reproduce the glass panel, I'll see tomorrow how it went.

Staying on the FM main fuselage, I did add a 0.1mm plastic shim to the spine part

 

It needed some sanding back, but eventually I got a precise fit 

 

I guess that's it for the day. I also started a Tamiya 1/48 P-51D kit for the 453rd Museum Build - I'll post a new thread about that right after this update.

 

All comments welcome

 

Ciao

 

 

 

 

[Cookenbacher]

Look at all that resin! You could start your own aftermarket company Giorgio, hmm I'll start thinking of all the model parts I'd order from you. 😀

[hendie]

I've always found that you just can't beat silicone for capturing detail in resin casting.

On the other hand... if you had a 3d printer...

 

 

Nice work Giorgio 

[Gene K]

4 minutes ago, hendie said:

On the other hand... if you had a 3d printer...

 

Yes, hendie, he REALLY needs one given all the splendid conversion work that he does.

 

Gene K

Edited May 16, 2021 by Gene K