AlexDX Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 What was the weaponry used during the first Harrier detachment in Belize in 1975? I guess the cannons, but what about the rockets? I know they were used later in 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham T Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 SNEB pods would seem the obvious answer. Others many know differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG899 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Photos only show empty outboard pylons and gun pods fitted for the first deployment. Of course, others may know differently... Hope that helps Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDX Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Thank you. Yes, it seems there are no pictures with the SNEBs under the wings. Logic would say this would be the weapon of choice for deterrence missions, but ... Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 The reason that none of the pictures have weaponry is that the Harriers were there because it was a "Confrontation" between Belize and Guatamala. Showing Guatamala that Harriers were there was a political statement of resolve, Showing them armed would up the Ante politically, and could appear to be more threatening. Such is diplomacy! The US in similar situations would send either F102 or F106 aircraft, as they carried their weapons internally. keep the doors closed, armed or not? Your guess! If the Harriers had been called to action, they would have probably have used SNEB. Selwyn 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDX Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 Great explanation ! Thank you. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbodyx Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 There is a Facebook page for 1417 Flight with photos of various aircraft carrying SNEB pods and CBLS whilst seemingly in theatre.... just keep scrolling down and they appear at various places. https://www.facebook.com/groups/18232521001/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Dogsbodyx said: There is a Facebook page for 1417 Flight with photos of various aircraft carrying SNEB pods and CBLS whilst seemingly in theatre.... just keep scrolling down and they appear at various places. https://www.facebook.com/groups/18232521001/ These are from the later period not the original 1977 deployment. Weapon fit is still vald. Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim R-T-C Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 4/27/2021 at 9:48 PM, Dogsbodyx said: There is a Facebook page for 1417 Flight with photos of various aircraft carrying SNEB pods and CBLS whilst seemingly in theatre.... just keep scrolling down and they appear at various places. https://www.facebook.com/groups/18232521001/ Unfortunately this group is now only open to veterans of the flight. Does anyone know a good source of photos of Belize Harriers - online or book - I'm particularly looking at ground equipment and personnel images for a diorama. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG899 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Hi Tim, Which period of the Belize deployments are you looking at, 1975 or later, up to 1993? I've a few of the later days, not much early on. Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim R-T-C Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 4 hours ago, NG899 said: Hi Tim, Which period of the Belize deployments are you looking at, 1975 or later, up to 1993? I've a few of the later days, not much early on. Cheers Nick Thank you. I am looking for around 1980 if you have any. Thanks, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG899 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Hi Tim, The best I can do is c.1982/3 with two confirmed serials/code letters and two shots under camo nets of other GR3s, codes known but serials not. If interested drop me a PM with your direct email address included. Cheers Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farde17 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Hi Tim Foxey Golf XW924 L. Black L was from 4 sqn left mid 1980 to OCU became H at OCU XV753 C. Blue C was from OCU arrived mid 1980. 1980 that was original revetment walls. 1981 revetment walls rebuilt and foxtrot hide drive through hide turned by 90 degrees. I'll try an dig out some photos. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG899 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Hi Mike, Thanks for the info on those two serials. I've been trying to piece together the details of all the GR3s which went to Belize from 1975 until 1994 and while, from movement cards I have a lot of info, tying up serials and codes has been a real pain; I still have lots of blanks but can now resolve those two. The info I have on those two from the movement cards and other official sources is (STC = Strike Command): XV753 Belize from 20-Feb-80 to 06-May-81 C. From 233OCU Returned to 233OCU > STC HarDet. 233OCU to 07-Feb-80, pale blue C. Witt 03-Mar-80 to 30-Apr-81 (STC-HarDet). 233OCU 26-Jan-82. XW924 Belize from 29-Mar-79 to 23-Jun-80 L. From IV(AC)233 Returned to OCU > STC HarDet Belize 05-Apr-79 to 23-Jun-80. IV(AC) 13-Dec-78 Black-L. '936' 27-Feb-79 to 24 May-79. Witt 25-May-79 to 11-Nov-80. 233OCU 11-Sep-81. As you can see some, there are some conflicting date issues! I've no idea what 936 on the movement card means. Other jets I have out in Belize from 1979 to early 1982 are: XV786 - 01-Nov-78 to 05-Apr-79, from 1(F) returned to IV(AC) XV793 - 01-Nov-78 to 30-May-79, from 1(F) returned to IV(AC) XV795 - 01-Nov-78 to 21-Jan-79, from 1(F) returned to 3(F) XW919 - 01-Nov-78 to 09-Aug-79, from 1(F) returned to 1(F) XW921 - 21-Jan-79 to 29-Feb-80, from IV(AC) returned to 233OCU XV783 - 30-May-79 to 28-Apr-80, from IV(AC) returned to 233OCU XZ132 - 06-Aug-79 to 03-Dec-79, from 3(F) returned to ADA Wittering XV759 - 22-Apr-80 to 06-Jul-81, from 233OCU returned to 233OCU XV804 - 20-May-80 to 27-Jan-81, from 233OCU returned to 233OCU XV752 - 17-Jun-80 to 29-May-81, from 233OCU returned to 233OCU XZ133 - 27-Jan81 to 14-Jan-82, from 233OCU returned to 1(F) XW923 - 22-Apr-81 to 26-May-81, from 233OCU as Pale Blue 'N'. Crashed 26-May-81 - lost control during STO at Belize, Flt Lt Jack Mardon ejected. XV807 - 14-May-81 to 14-Jul-81, from 233OCU as Pale Blue 'G'. Crashed 14-Jul-81 - Near Cayo flew into ground, tailplane link disconnected, pilot killed. XV804 - 01-Jun-81 to 08-Apr-82, from 233OCU returned to 233OCU XZ966 - 20-Jul-81 to 09-Jul-82, from 1(F) returned to 1(F) XW921 - 12-Jan-82 to 15-Dec-82, from 233OCU returned to 233OCU XV783 - 26-Feb-82-18-Apr-83, Pale Blue 'D', from 233OCU returned to 233OCU If you can help with any other details it would be good to hear from you. Thank you. All the best Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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