Rodders Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Hi All, the boss has chosen me the Airfix 72nd scale Sabre kit no.a3082. I've also got the eduard detail set ss397 plus a Pavle resin ejector seat. As i know nothing about the Sabre and even less about the Italian air force i was after info on the cockpit. The airfix kit has a grey colour for the cockpit but the eduard set has a black painted cockpit to bend to shape. I've only got the Haynes manual which i think focuses on the A which has a black cockpit. Can anyone help with any info, Thanks, Rodders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 The Italian Sabre Mk.IV were all former RAF aircraft. These were US owned during their service British service and remained so after their initial retirement when they were refurbished in the UK before being delivered to other users. I am not sure of what happened to the cockpits during this refurbishment work, but I've seen pictures of Italian aircraft with both black and grey cockpits ! Could be that black was the colour originally applied and grey was used after the aircraft passed through maintenance in Italy, could be that both colours were used during the refurbishment work, I have no idea. What matters is that you could use both 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: The Italian Sabre Mk.IV were all former RAF aircraft. These were US owned during their service British service and remained so after their initial retirement when they were refurbished in the UK before being delivered to other users. I am not sure of what happened to the cockpits during this refurbishment work, but I've seen pictures of Italian aircraft with both black and grey cockpits ! Could be that black was the colour originally applied and grey was used after the aircraft passed through maintenance in Italy, could be that both colours were used during the refurbishment work, I have no idea. What matters is that you could use both thanks for the clarification, Cheers, Rodders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 @Rodders If it helps, a very rough rule of thumb is that the camouflaged a/c had black cockpits; the NMF a/c had grey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 This is quite a good reference. https://www.modellismopiu.it/modules/newbb_plus/print.php?forum=118&topic_id=138581 Justin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Sabrejet said: @Rodders If it helps, a very rough rule of thumb is that the camouflaged a/c had black cockpits; the NMF a/c had grey. Very true ! However there are plenty of pictures of Italian Sabres in natural metal still sporting black cockpits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: Very true ! However there are plenty of pictures of Italian Sabres in natural metal still sporting black cockpits As I said, very rough. In fact it would be fair to say that the camo a/c should all have black cockpits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfman Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Thanks Bedders, an excellent reference. Wulfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 Yes thanks Bedders and all for the help, Cheers, Rodders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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