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8 hours ago, CedB said:

I'm pleased we're able to help Jim. The kindness he showed during our visit and the information he sought out is a great memory eh? Such kindness and enthusiasm deserves support IMHO.

I'm going to try to get to the Airshow at the end of July, if we're allowed.

Yes indeed, a great memory, Jim is definitely one of the good ones. I also remember you driving PC and I around Shipdham looking for my grandfather's crash sight - you're a truly a great host Ced, and PC, Bill and I will have a lot to live up to whenever you're able to make it over here. Looking forward to that day.

Please take pics if you make it to the airshow Ced.

 

8 hours ago, CedB said:

I'd better take some close up shots before close up.

(English is weird)

It's that old adage, "Close up before close up".

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Well Ced, I am late on parade again (Been of line for a few days, I.T. free )

 

If I may I would like to sit in on this one dear chap.

I have both the "F" and "G" versions by Revell plus the Airfix "G" as well.

 

Some very handy pics and tips here.

 

Simon.

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20 hours ago, CedB said:

Non-wine nights are quite rare for me nowadays - I'm still deciding whether to go 'to the other place' sober, or happy and pickled.

My night shifts keep me teetotal about a 1/3 of the time, I do my best to compensate in between, come looming retirement, well, I don't wish to consider that just yet. Modelling may have to compete with home brewing :D

The interior is looking amazing Ced, top of the heap. :)

19 hours ago, Biggles87 said:

Interiors coming on well. I wonder why the pilots’ seat supports needed to be so ‘ industrial ‘, perhaps it was because of the extra weight caused by the flak-jackets, steel helmets and other gubbins they wore.

 

John

Not to mention steel cod pieces for the protection of the thereins. :D

Steve.

 

 

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Trying to find a way to slip surreptitiously in at the back without being noticed.

 

Wow, two B17's Ced, impressive.

 

Will stay tuned to this one these two!

 

Terry

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On 13/04/2021 at 11:01, giemme said:

Yeah, sometimes... :D  :D  

 

Lovely job on the interiors, Ced :clap: :clap:

I plead not guilty, Your Honor, I saw that on another build! :rofl: 

 

Ciao

Thanks Giorgio :D

 

On 13/04/2021 at 11:39, Biggles87 said:

Interiors coming on well. I wonder why the pilots’ seat supports needed to be so ‘ industrial ‘, perhaps it was because of the extra weight caused by the flak-jackets, steel helmets and other gubbins they wore.

 

John

Thanks John :) 

Maybe the plastic moulding couldn't make the supports thinner, but I agree the 'PPE' used in them days was probably heavy.

It made me wonder, with all those defensive guns and pilot armour, what load the B17 delivered and how it compared to others.

I did a quick Google and various sites told me:

B-17: A 4,000-pound (1,800-kg) bomb load was typical for long missions, though the B-17 could carry up to 8,000 pounds (3,600 kg) internally for shorter distances at lower altitudes.
He-111 (H-6): 2,000 kilograms (4,400 lb) in the main internal bomb bay. Up to 3,600 kilograms (7,900 lb) could be carried externally. External bomb racks blocked the internal bomb bay.

Lancaster: 33,100 lbs of fuel and Bombs including the “Grand Slam“ at 22,000-lb

So, comparable to the Heinkel but both outclassed by the Lanc.

 

On 13/04/2021 at 14:22, AliGauld said:

I go off to a training course, come back and he's off and running. 

Still, looks beautiful.

 

Cheers,

Alistair

Thanks Ali :) 

 

On 13/04/2021 at 14:26, VT Red Sox Fan said:

CedB--those cockpits look amazing--I really like the cockpit green you chose for this build--on point for a B-17G--best, Erwin

Thanks Erwin :) 

I'm a bit limited on greens but that's Hu3 'Emerald'.

 

On 13/04/2021 at 19:12, Cookenbacher said:

Yes indeed, a great memory, Jim is definitely one of the good ones. I also remember you driving PC and I around Shipdham looking for my grandfather's crash sight - you're a truly a great host Ced, and PC, Bill and I will have a lot to live up to whenever you're able to make it over here. Looking forward to that day.

Please take pics if you make it to the airshow Ced.

 

It's that old adage, "Close up before close up".

Thanks Cookie, great memories :) 

Hopefully I'll be allowed out soon and be able to think about making plans.

 

On 13/04/2021 at 20:30, Spookytooth said:

Well Ced, I am late on parade again (Been of line for a few days, I.T. free )

 

If I may I would like to sit in on this one dear chap.

I have both the "F" and "G" versions by Revell plus the Airfix "G" as well.

 

Some very handy pics and tips here.

 

Simon.

Welcome Simon :) 

I think this might be my last B-17 for my collection but Jim has another lined up for me for the museum.

 

On 13/04/2021 at 21:27, woody37 said:

Loving the interior finish on these forts Ced, that wood grain looks great :)

 

Thanks Neil :)

 

On 14/04/2021 at 06:24, stevehnz said:

My night shifts keep me teetotal about a 1/3 of the time, I do my best to compensate in between, come looming retirement, well, I don't wish to consider that just yet. Modelling may have to compete with home brewing :D

The interior is looking amazing Ced, top of the heap. :)

Not to mention steel cod pieces for the protection of the thereins. :D

Steve.

Thanks Steve :)

Home brewing eh? Sounds good. I used to dabble a few years ago - wine and beer - but, being lazy, resorted to buying the stuff again.

 

On 14/04/2021 at 22:56, Terry1954 said:

Trying to find a way to slip surreptitiously in at the back without being noticed.

 

Wow, two B17's Ced, impressive.

 

Will stay tuned to this one these two!

 

Terry

Aha! You know that doesn't work don't you Terry? Although my management training tells me I shouldn't show late arrivals any special treatment or everyone will do it!

"It's the behaviour that's rewarded that's repeated". :D 

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A few days lost due to our being able to go out and about. Sister visited and we went to lunch at a local hotel/restaurant; outside of course.

Nice change but crikey, we'd forgotten how much these places cost!

 

Anyway, some seats have been prepared:

 

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I noticed one part had suffered from all the handling of the sprues so I cut them off and put them in 'the safe box':

 

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Oops.

 

i stuck the top of the seats together for easier painting:

 

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Painted up and stuck in with the bomb sights:

 

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Radio room next.

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Fiddly! Great job :clap: That last pic shows the wood effect so neatly!

 

Ciao

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40 minutes ago, giemme said:

Fiddly! Great job :clap:

 

Yes indeed.  Never seen the attraction of this 1/72 scale stuff meself Ced, far too fiddly - stick to 1/48 is my mantra :whistle:

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3 hours ago, CedB said:

A few days lost due to our being able to go out and about. Sister visited and we went to lunch at a local hotel/restaurant

Not, I suggest lost, more a fresh opportunity grasped and enjoyed.

 

The models can wait and reality grasped, an enviable use of time Ced.

 

Keep it up

 

 

Nice wood too, by the way.

 

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I know its been said before Ced (did you see what i did there?), but that wood effect is superb!

 

Terry

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Yeah, fiddly bits, the best part of them is half of them won`t get seen.

But we still paint them and stick them in place don`t we.

 

All looking good from here Ced.


Glad the social life has started.

 

Simon.

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On 16/04/2021 at 11:13, giemme said:

Fiddly! Great job :clap: That last pic shows the wood effect so neatly!

 

Ciao

Thanks Giorgio - more to come! :)

 

On 16/04/2021 at 11:50, Biggles87 said:

Still no footprints though. :dog:

Nope. Shoes off in our house :D 

 

On 16/04/2021 at 11:55, Fritag said:

 

Yes indeed.  Never seen the attraction of this 1/72 scale stuff meself Ced, far too fiddly - stick to 1/48 is my mantra :whistle:

Oh, the preaching of the (probably not) converted! :D

 

On 16/04/2021 at 14:09, perdu said:

Not, I suggest lost, more a fresh opportunity grasped and enjoyed.

 

The models can wait and reality grasped, an enviable use of time Ced.

 

Keep it up

 

 

Nice wood too, by the way.

 

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Thanks Bill :) Quite right, it was nice to get out for a change.

 

On 16/04/2021 at 20:11, The Spadgent said:

Lovely fiddly bits. 🥳

 

 Johnny.

Thanks Johnny :) More to come!

 

On 16/04/2021 at 20:29, Terry1954 said:

I know its been said before Ced (did you see what i did there?), but that wood effect is superb!

 

Terry

Thanks Terry :) 

'Ced said' looks much better written down. It's amazing how many people try to avoid saying it!

 

On 16/04/2021 at 20:56, hendie said:

If there's one thing Ced knows about, it's wood!

Sadly not hendie, bit of a distant mem… oh, the wood effect! Right… :D 

 

21 hours ago, Spookytooth said:

Yeah, fiddly bits, the best part of them is half of them won`t get seen.

But we still paint them and stick them in place don`t we.

 

All looking good from here Ced.


Glad the social life has started.

 

Simon.

Thanks Simon :) 

You're right, we do spend inordinate amounts of time on things that won't be seen.

I'm doing it again…

 

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Radios and things painted:

 

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More wood. I wish I'd learned to look ahead in the instructions :( 

 

Back bulkheads:

 

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I then needed to start sticking things in so, before it all vanishes:

 

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Now then, what's this?

 

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Fit part #61 or step 34 but not 92/93?

Step 34 is the ball turret assembly.

92/93 are the only two schemes in this kit.

I know manufacturers are economical with the instructions but hey, give me a break…

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24 minutes ago, CedB said:

Now then, what's this?

 

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Fit part #61 or step 34 but not 92/93?

Step 34 is the ball turret assembly.

92/93 are the only two schemes in this kit.

I know manufacturers are economical with the instructions but hey, give me a break…

I’m going to be wrong but does that mean either fit this (61) part or the ball turret? Maybe this part is for neither of the schemes in this boxing so use the turret? 
 

Lovely fettling by the way. 🙌

 

Johnny

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2 hours ago, CedB said:

I wish I'd learned to look ahead in the instructions

Now where would the fun be in that. :D.

 

Both look seriously good to me.

 

Cheers,

Alistair

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8 hours ago, CedB said:

Now then, what's this?

 

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Fit part #61 or step 34 but not 92/93?

That kind of looks like a radar dome Ced. Did Revell produce a 'Pathfinder' version of this kit?

https://standwheretheyfought.jimdofree.com/b-17-flying-fortress-crash-in-trimbach-switzerland-february-27-1945-then-and-now/

 

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Looking really smart so far Ced! I never knew a B-17 interior had so much wood. It's amazing what I learn on this forum. The wood grain you achieved is just right for 1:72, kudos on that.   :)

 

Cheers,

Bill

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Well that's me worn out after a five page catch up. Slow down that chap!

I've learnt things here and been impressed by other things so a result in my book.

What's better than a B-17? Two B-17's! I love them. I shall pop by again.

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As above Ced this looks like mickey radome. Long ago Paragon did resin conversion in different scales for the older kits.  I also didn't know that they did a pathfinder version with the kitts. Btw nice work on the interieur.

Cheers

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On 4/13/2021 at 7:12 PM, Cookenbacher said:

I also remember you driving PC and I around Shipdham looking for my grandfather's crash sight

 

In a moment of work-avoiding google-mapping last week, I worked out that I used to live just 500m off-of the threshold of runway 19 at RAF Attlebridge back in the 90’s. If your Grandfather could tolerate warm beer he probably drank in the village inn, the Parson Woodforde at Weston Longville - it’d have been the closest pub to the base.  :D

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