ReccePhreak Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I have a few older 1/48 MiG-17 & MiG-19 kits that look pretty nice, and I would like to build them some day. (HiPM S-105/MiG-19S & AeroMaster Choice MiG-17F, plus others). One of the things that bothers me is the very thick wing fences, plus they are not a uniform thickness. I was thinking of replacing them with suitable plastic sheet fences, but I need to know what thickness plastic to use. Has anybody ever measured the wing fences on these aircraft? Or, should I just go with what's in the kit? Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar57 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just my .02¢.....you could file/sand down the existing fences or, if you have any P.E. frames left over, use the fences as a template Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, fubar57 said: Just my .02¢.....you could file/sand down the existing fences or, if you have any P.E. frames left over, use the fences as a template True, But I still don't know how thin to make them. And that sanding may ruin the surface detail. Edited March 24, 2021 by ReccePhreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duilio Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Say its a 1/4 inch thick which I doubt thats 250 thou Divided by 48 thats 5 thou 10 thou would be 1/2 inçh thick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Duilio said: Say its a 1/4 inch thick which I doubt thats 250 thou Divided by 48 thats 5 thou 10 thou would be 1/2 inçh thick Point taken. I think I will stick with 10 thou plastic. It may be too thick, but at least it'll look much better than the kits' fences. I just checked the fences in the HiPM MiG-19 kit, and they are 25.5 thou! Larry Edited March 24, 2021 by ReccePhreak More info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Since I also plan to convert my HiPM 1/48 MiG-19S into a Shenyang JZ-6 reconnaissance variant, the next thing I have to figure out is what color the aircraft is. Let me see if I can post a link to the photo on airliners.net, instead of the actual photo. https://www.airliners.net/photo/China-Air-Force/Shenyang-JZ-6/1618438/L I doubt it is overall white, even a faded white, as that doesn't make sense to me for a recce aircraft. I think it's a very light gray. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARDOG Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Hi Larry, I'd say very light Gray also! Compare the gloss White pilot's helmet to the aircraft's paint. It's my method of color-checking these photos, look for a color I "know" and use it to compare another color to. Take Care, WARDOG Edited March 25, 2021 by WARDOG Additions and corrections 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Hi WARDOG, Good point. Now to figure out the sizes & shapes for all the recce "bumps". That's always the interesting (AND challenging) part of my research. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Wing fences are about 1,5mm to 2mm in reality. Not more. All MIG 15 to 21 about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apex Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) MiG-19S at Kbely, Prague: No, I did not measure it, but as you can see the base is several centimeters thick while edges are sharp. Maybe you can just file the kit fences, this worked quite well on a 1/72 KP (old tool) kit. ...and, MiG-17F at Kbely, Prague: Just a thin fence. Note how the fences are perpendicular to the wing, not vertical. Edited March 25, 2021 by Apex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 A little difference! Not like the picture from the post before! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 @dov Thanks for those pics. What's that under the pylon on the first pic, a jousting pole? Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apex Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 hours ago, dov said: A little difference! Not like the picture from the post before! Here is a better look at the same aircraft: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just "slightly" weathered. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaCee26 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 2:38 AM, ReccePhreak said: https://www.airliners.net/photo/China-Air-Force/Shenyang-JZ-6/1618438/L I doubt it is overall white, even a faded white, as that doesn't make sense to me for a recce aircraft. I think it's a very light gray. Hi Larry, Overall white was a common livery for many Chinese types, J-6, J-7, J-8, Q-5, H-6 belly etc. For me this one looks like a weary one. Cheers, AaCee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Hi @AaCee26, Thanks for that info. I still think I will go with a VERY light gray, and maybe weather it even more. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 12:09 PM, ReccePhreak said: What's that under the pylon on the first pic, a jousting pole? Larry That's an APU-3 launch rail for RS-1/2 Alkali missiles. Cheers, Andre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReccePhreak Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Thanks @Hook I figured it out after I posted, and saw more photos. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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