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Over-paid & over here - 453rd Museum P-38 Lightning; a build for recovery


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Cockpit interior looks fab and the canopy looks good too, it would definitely be better if the windscreen sections would include the fuselage section to a panel line too.

Great job 

Chris

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1 hour ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

Giorgio, contain yourself!

I'm actually content, you and @TheBaron cracking out some paint at the same time! :rofl:

 

Ciao 

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4 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

Belts done; Eduard won.  The seat is not as shiny as this photo makes it appear

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Shiny or not I love the way that the light cascades over all those various surfaces in and around the cockpit Crisp.

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The P-38 doesn’t do anything for me, I don’t know why, so I’ve not been following your build. This evening I decided to skim through the photos anyway and saw everyone wishing you a speedy recovery, which made me pay more attention. I would like to add my wishes for a speedy recovery to those already expressed.

Take it easy and enjoy the kits.

 

John

 

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On 3/19/2021 at 7:56 PM, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

mire speed

 

Planning not to get bogged down on this one then Crisp?   Actually - speed of progress to date seems to confirm this!

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

Belts done; Eduard won.  

 

:hmmm:Noted.  Don’t bode well - P’raps I’ll get some Eduard back ups n’all.........

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1 hour ago, Fritag said:

 

:hmmm:Noted.  Don’t bode well - P’raps I’ll get some Eduard back ups n’all.........


I think the HGW belts will look fantastic when done, but I went for the lazier option... and in any case, I’m about to dive into more HGW goodness over other areas of the airframe...

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In case anyone hasn’t twigged from my comments on the General’s P-38G/H builds (not to mention my history with rivets and Sea Kings), the after market to which I have been alluding is the dedicated full set of rivets for this kit produced by HGW.   
 

As I have said on numerous occasions already, this kit is superb, so why on Earth do I want to add rivets?  Well because I am aiming to reproduce something like the effect seen on this chap’s port wing...

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...and I think the best way to do that is with some proper raised rivets (as opposed to dents in the skin).  
 

The Sea King rivets were a complete saga, but that was because I had to design every single rivet (& there are literally thousands of them on Sikorsky / Westland’s masterpiece); in this case HGW have done it for me.  It’s impossible to photograph them before application, so here is a section of the instructions to give you a flavour.  Each colour represents a separate transfer (if you aren’t familiar with HGW’s system, all will become clear in due course):

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Again from my experience with the Queen of the Skies, I know that preparing the surface for application is completely critical, so today I have been spraying Mr Surfacer 1200:

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Though Mr S is brilliant stuff, I never find it easy to get the mix right for airbrushing, and will have to redo one wing after a horrible splodge/splutter at the start:

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No big deal - it’s already off and will be re-sprayed tomorrow.  For the most part it has dried to a beautiful finish; next step is micro mesh and then the fun begins...


More soon

 

Crisp

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Great progress Crisp, coming along nicely. I’ve noticed a few folks have opted to just rivet those inner wing areas and for good reason. To be honest looking at images there doesn’t seem to be a great preponderance of visible rivet detail over the rest of the airframe, especially with the Olive drab finish. Thanks for donating your services as a test mule, greatly appreciated.

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It's not like  I wasn't already enthusiastic about seeing this build, but that reference pic is amazing, and I'm really looking forward to the rivets.

[successfully avoided riveting pun]

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52 minutes ago, Cookenbacher said:

[successfully avoided riveting pun]

 

Superhuman self-control there Cookie.....

 

As for me - almost overwhelmed by a sense of deja vu - Crisp’n rivets.

 

It’s gonna be gripping (doesn’t count as a riveting pun cos it’s only a synonym :D)

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Rivets?

Yeah, count 'em baby :D 

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Really great looking build Crisp.  Unlike Ark Royal you are doing this before me, so I am going to shamelessly use your build thread to inform my own build. 

 

Are the PE seat belts really easier than the HPH ones?  I have done the HPH belts before and they are indeed a pain, but I have avoided the Eduard ones because I have always assumed they would be harder.  What I really like is a nice after market seat with molded on seat belts. 

 

It feels appropriate to comment on this thread today as I sit here eating my imported Cadbury Chocolate.  😋

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Mr Surfacer on Wings duly fixed.  Not the most thrilling of updates, but vital.

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4 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

Mr Surfacer on Wings duly fixed.  Not the most thrilling of updates, but vital.

Agreed on the importance of the fix. Very neat job :clap:

 

Ciao

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6 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

Not the most thrilling of updates,

 

But definitely more thrilling than working on a Classic Airframes kit

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10 hours ago, hendie said:

 

But definitely more thrilling than working on a Classic Airframes kit

 
I have at least two Classic Airframes kits in my stash (Sea Hornet & Gannet).  I think I’ve earned a top-notch state-of-the-art Tamiya masterpiece for now...

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14 hours ago, hendie said:

 

But definitely more thrilling than working on a Classic Airframes kit

 

4 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

 
I have at least two Classic Airframes kits in my stash (Sea Hornet & Gannet).  I think I’ve earned a top-notch state-of-the-art Tamiya masterpiece for now...

Hmmm. I have a Supermarine Attacker and a Meteor FR9. Sounds like I have some challenges in my future!

 

Terry

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For those of you not familiar with HGW’s system....

 

Having primed (in this case with Mr Surfacer 1200 via airbrush), micro mesh to a decent polish - you are, after all, about to apply transfers / decals:

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Hard to photograph, but not half as hard as Stage 2, which is to apply the transfers with assistance from Mr Mark Softer / Setter.  You need an Optivisor for this to position the rivets precisely, because at this point they are very hard to see with the naked eye... to the extent that I haven’t bothered to photograph the 4 I have applied (both upper wings inboard & outboard of the engine nacelles, but not yet the leading edges, ailerons or wing tips - Nos 2, 5, 6 & 8 on the instructions above).

 

Once you are happy that you’ve got as many bubbles etc out as possible (lots of careful work with cotton buds etc), Stage 3 is an act of faith. Do nothing; leave them completely alone for about 6 hours.

 

Stage 4 - the nerve-wracking but where you peel off the upper layer & hope it has all worked - to follow later!

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Looking forward to see how this malarkey turns out, Crisp :popcorn:

 

Ciao 

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Like Giorgio, I'm looking forward to the grand reveal! I remember seeing these archer decals a while back at Telford and was very impressed.

 

Terry

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Who'da thunk it. First press on nails, now press on rivets. And here I though technology reached it peak with microwave pizza and it was all down hill from there. 

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Not Archer, HGW - different system (and in general HGW are much more subtle - I use both).

 

Success, I’d say:

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Phew! Very cool.

I'm so glad I just happened to check the thread right after this update Crisp, I only had to anticipate the result for as long as it took to scroll down from your last post!

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Yep, big success. The rivets look superb. I've been pondering rivets for one of my builds and wondering about the HGW decals. Think I'd better order some.

Richie

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