pheonix Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 This really is an aeroplane which is right up my street. I have bought the reference book and am searching for plans as I will most certainly have to make one of these in the True Scale. Watching your progress is important as I am making notes as you go along. P 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 10, 2021 Author Share Posted April 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, pheonix said: I have bought the reference book and am searching for plans as I will most certainly have to make one of these in the True Scale. It really is a goldmine I will definitely make a Sablatning triplane and there are two or three other designs I’m considering as well. They have a couple of other interesting books including German WWI night fighters which I’ll probably invest in over time. Edited April 10, 2021 by Marklo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/3/2021 at 9:45 AM, Marklo said: Well mr Oertz was a boatbuilder first and even built yachts for the Kaiser. I get the impression that for the W6 he decided to stop trying to make the hull look like an aeroplane. On 4/4/2021 at 11:21 AM, Marklo said: Yes, yes, yes. Managed to figure out what was going wrong with my soldering ( plan a actually worked, granted after trying plans, b, c and d and failing at them, plan e might have worked too ( top left corner)) Onwards and upwards ( I have to solder on the cross braces) I was beginning to wonder if this was a really nice speed boat or a really funky airplane? But then don't you love it when a plan comes together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Cut out the wing blanks, not very exciting but progress. Still wrestling with the tail booms, definitely need to work on my soldering skills a bit more but getting there. Pictures when I have something worth showing Edited April 12, 2021 by Marklo 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 That’s a lotta wings! Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, AdrianMF said: That’s a lotta wings! Don’t I know it. I cut out four blanks thinking I was done, but had a nagging feeling, before remembering that I needed eight, d’oh. All I can say is that I’m glad I had my Lidl crafting cutter. Of course now I have to sand them, roll them and make eight sets of linesd skins from twenty thou sheet, oh the joys of scratch building At least it’s less work than the PB31 which had no less than 16 wing sections ( 20 if you count having to redo the top centre ones twice) Maybe someday I’ll see sense and stick to monoplanes, maybe. But I do want to make a Fokker V8 and I have seen some interesting 9 winged planes….. Maybe too many wings. Edited April 12, 2021 by Marklo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Having seen a model of the flying boat in your last post, I have decided that even in 1/72 scale that one has just too many wings for my liking. But it does make an extremely impressive model. Watching the thing break up attempting to take off was quite spectacular too. P Edited April 12, 2021 by pheonix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, pheonix said: Watching the thing break up attempting to take off was quite spectacular too. Yes apparently it got to 60m then promptly crashed. I did actually find a webpage with a 1/144 scratch build if it. If were to build one I’d probably stick to that or maybe 1/72 ( but it would be about 15 inches at that scale) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehed Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) On 4/12/2021 at 7:17 PM, Marklo said: Yes apparently it got to 60m then promptly crashed. I did actually find a webpage with a 1/144 scratch build if it. If were to build one I’d probably stick to that or maybe 1/72 ( but it would be about 15 inches at that scale) I'd go for it. Spanwise it's less than the Airfix 0/400 which scales at nigh enough 17 inches. Mind you there can be hidden costs when the big boys are tackled. I have Zeppelin Staakens in the stash, span 23 inches, and a scratch built DFW R1 on the shelf which is also 17 inches. Not forgetting a Roden Felixstowe flying boat. No way these get built and displayed on normal shelves so I had to treat myself to some easy build industrial shelving for the man cave. Best of luck and I'm enjoying the Oertz and having similar thoughts to Phoenix. Edited April 13, 2021 by stevehed Spelling 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, stevehed said: I have Zeppelin Staakens Me too a thirty plus year old contrail vac form in 1/72 I also have an O/400 in wip so hmm maybe. It would be cute in 1/144 but probably a nightmare to build. Edited April 14, 2021 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 Haven’t been too well in the last few weeks so only getting back to the bench, but after much fiddling, furtling and fettling ( and possibly a bit of Anglo Saxon) we have a not too bad soldered brass tail boom (yay) And here it is with the horizontal stabiliser dry fitted. Next up the two rudders I think. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Wow! That is a big step forward, well done on continuing trying with the soldering. The whole thing is looking good. Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 Some control horns for the tail planes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Good progress with the tail boom. Soldering is not too difficult provided that some basic procedures are closely followed - especially keeping the joints scrupulously clean. The hull is excellent - very clean and smooth. This is truly beginning to look like a yatch - with wings it will look even better! P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 51 minutes ago, pheonix said: Soldering is not too difficult provided that some basic procedures are closely followed I think it was the fact that while I have plenty of experience of electrical soldering and I am an engineer, I wasn’t getting the whole idea of heating the parts and letting the solder flow into the joint, I was also struggling with my two soldering tools ( one gas and the other an ancient pifco electric gun) and also not having separate flux paste ( I’m sure I’ll find it tomorrow) But while I wouldn’t say I’ve entirely gotten the hang of it I have gotten a more than serviceable result. I’ll have to dust off the soldering iron for the interplane struts on my Albatros CX but it’s altogether a simpler assembly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Major progress. Vertical tail planes fabricated and fitted and the tail boom mostly rigged. Dry fitted to the hull. The assembly after a shot of primer. Hmm not sure my control horns are correct but at this stage I’m not going messing with them. More to follow. Edited April 20, 2021 by Marklo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Tail assembly attached. The observant viewer may even note the gnatty black stripes on the hull Front struts attached. Massive sigh of relief. I wasn’t sure I’d be able to get this much to work. But it’s done and it’s light and robust. Just the wings, the engine and propeller assemblies and the interior left. These should all be significantly easier to build them the hull and tail planes. Edited April 20, 2021 by Marklo 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehed Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Really coming together now. Splendid looking job on the tail boom. The more I see of this the more I want one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Yes the tail unit is a bit complicated but being made from brass rod it should be robust. I have looked at the wing attachment as closely as photos and drawings will allow and think that they will be more difficult, especially the forward lower wing to fuselage. In the True Scale they are going to present a challenge, but I am sure that a solution will be found when I start. P Edited April 21, 2021 by pheonix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, pheonix said: I have looked at the wing attachment as closely as photos and drawings =will allow and think that they will be more difficult, especially the forward lower wing to fuselage. In the True Scale they are going to present a challenge, but I am sure that a solution will be found when I start. I’d agree there. I’m going to rest the rear wing assembly on the upper tail boom, if I were doing it again I think I’d solder pins either side of the booms to accept the wings. On the lower forward wings I’ve deliberately made the cockpit framing chunky and I think I’ll get away with brass pins to mount the lower wings and I’m hoping the rigging structure will support the rest. In 1/72 the whole structure would be extremely challenging. I’d probably stick with brass but go .7mm or.5mm maybe. The one thing I’ve noticed is that once rigged the tail assembly is surprisingly sturdy ( it’s been dropped more than once ) I have some 1mm carbon fibre rod on order which may get used along the way it’s light and strong and can be glued with liquid polystyrene cement, it’s most likely to get used for the propellor mounts. Edited April 21, 2021 by Marklo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 I know I said I wasn’t going to redo the control horns but they were annoying me so I decided to redo the control horns. This the rear lower centre wing section ready for fitting. And here it is fitted; sitting in the wip shelf whilst the glue dries. Started on the frame for the propellers. I have no idea why but it soldered first time with no hassle, maybe I’m getting the hang of it? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenSharp Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, Marklo said: I know I said I wasn’t going to redo the control horns but they were annoying me so I decided to redo the control horns. This the rear lower centre wing section ready for fitting. And here it is fitted; sitting in the wip shelf whilst the glue dries. Started on the frame for the propellers. I have no idea why but it soldered first time with no hassle, maybe I’m getting the hang of it? By George , I do believe He's got it Excellent job so far! Especially with the tail rigging. Can't wait for further developments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Those soldered joints look first class. Easy once you have the hang of it! Useful pictures of the rare lower wing fitting to fuselage too - thanks for that. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 This gets better and better! That soldering looks really good! I really must improve mine - I have a stalled ship build because the masts need soldering, but the parts are so small I am having trouble figuring out how to secure them to get the soldered! All the best, Ray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Ray S said: I am having trouble figuring out how to secure them to get the soldered! Take a look at Albion connecto a clever alternative that I only discovered yesterday but would definitely have gone for if I’d known about it. https://www.albionhobbies.com/product-ranges/connecto/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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