Simon Dyer Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Hi Folks Please bear with me as there a number of firsts for me here, the main one being Ive never done a "Work in Progress" before😱. I will mention the others in a mo. I hope not to bore you to death🤐 I chose this kit for a few reasons, there is another forum that are going to do a Matchbox build (Im not going to do it though). But it reminded me of the first kit I ever built some 50 years ago. Bought as an xmas present and armed with just a tube of Airfix glue (see image below, may bring back a few memories to some of you😂). Searched the internet and found one still in its original cellophane. The kit was first manufactured in 1972 through to the 90's with I understand only having box & decal changes but never any new moulds. Mine is from 1982 so should be much the same as when I got my first one in 1974. The other firsts for me will be😱 1. Polished metal cowling (have something in mind though) 2. A realistic wooden painted propeller (If on the reveal the prop is black you know I failed😭). 3. The rigging hmmmmm still trying to work that one out So here are just a few pics but will add more as I progress The dreaded glue Thanks for looking and will be back soon, Any suggestions, comments would be welcome Many thanks Si 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I use the 'holes right through' method of rigging - holes right through the wings If you go for rigging and holes, drill now Matchbox. afair, have the rigging points marked on the wings 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 That is one of the nicest little models I have ever built, and an ideal introduction to rigging. Enjoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 Thanks guys, rigging info great thank you 👍👍👍👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 That's a great little kit, Sir. As you are trying new things, may I suggest using foil for the cowling? Nothing looks quite so much like polished metal as polished metal. For rigging I use elastic EZ-line, with CA gel and accelerator. Put a tiny dab of the gel where an end should go, wet the line with accelerator, touch it to the tiny dab, give things a slow ten count and it will hold. Make the line just a little shorter than needed. Tweezers will need a good tight grip. As far as fit goes, the kit is quite good. The upper nose piece seam has needed work when I have built this kit, but that is about all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Old Man said: That's a great little kit, Sir. As you are trying new things, may I suggest using foil for the cowling? Nothing looks quite so much like polished metal as polished metal. For rigging I use elastic EZ-line, with CA gel and accelerator. Put a tiny dab of the gel where an end should go, wet the line with accelerator, touch it to the tiny dab, give things a slow ten count and it will hold. Make the line just a little shorter than needed. Tweezers will need a good tight grip. As far as fit goes, the kit is quite good. The upper nose piece seam has needed work when I have built this kit, but that is about all. Thank you Old Man (sorry doesn't seem quite right calling you that if you know what I mean?😱😂😂). Will take note and update as I go along thank you Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieS Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, Simon Dyer said: Thank you Old Man (sorry doesn't seem quite right calling you that if you know what I mean?😱😂😂). Will take note and update as I go along thank you Si Great kit Si. Keep at it. Laurie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Next to their Siskin and P-12E, this was a wonderful kt that was so much better than their non golden age kits. I have used either very thin stainless dental wire or sprue for 1/72 aircraft rigging, and you might want to look at some videos that show the use of AK Interactive's true metal wax- it seems to be a modern type of rub-n-buff, which was a material that always seemed to give a very scale-like polished metal finish to models, but was a bit of a pain to work with. My next Siskin and Fury models will most likely be done with the AK metallic waxes. Mike My old friend, master modeler, and author Roscoe Creed, used to take very small diameter brass rod. stretch it out and fix so it held tension; and then using a file, created an airfoil shape to make flying wires. Saw him do this on a 1/48 Travelaire Mystery ship, and they looked fantastic! Keeping that in mind if I ever get around to doing a P-26 or Gee Bee! Can't wait to see your WIP as it progresses! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, 72modeler said: Next to their Siskin and P-12E, this was a wonderful kt that was so much better than their non golden age kits. I have used either very thin stainless dental wire or sprue for 1/72 aircraft rigging, and you might want to look at some videos that show the use of AK Interactive's true metal wax- it seems to be a modern type of rub-n-buff, which was a material that always seemed to give a very scale-like polished metal finish to models, but was a bit of a pain to work with. My next Siskin and Fury models will most likely be done with the AK metallic waxes. Mike My old friend, master modeler, and author Roscoe Creed, used to take very small diameter brass rod. stretch it out and fix so it held tension; and then using a file, created an airfoil shape to make flying wires. Saw him do this on a 1/48 Travelaire Mystery ship, and they looked fantastic! Keeping that in mind if I ever get around to doing a P-26 or Gee Bee! Can't wait to see your WIP as it progresses! Thanks 72modeler. There are some interesting things I've been sent. Will have a practice and see what happens before I commit Thanks for coming back to me with the info much appreciated 👍 Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 A lovely kit, good luck with your project. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, bigbadbadge said: A lovely kit, good luck with your project. Chris Thanks Chris 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) Ah rigging one of the biggest old chestnuts of the scale modelling world. EZ line is ok, but personally I find the through holes method with fine fishing monofilament is easiest. Ez line and CA .5mm monofilament through holes. Both 1/48 My Airfix Swordfish still a work in progress .25mm monofilament. Edited March 13, 2021 by Marklo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 7:16 PM, Simon Dyer said: may bring back a few memories to some of you😂 Certainly does! Best wishes for the build. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 38 minutes ago, Marklo said: Ah rigging one of the biggest old chestnuts of the scale modelling world. EZ line is ok, but personally I find the through holes method with fine fishing monofilament is easiest. Ez line and CA .5mm monofilament through holes. Both 1/48 My Airfix Swordfish still a work in progress .25mm monofilament. 39 minutes ago, Marklo said: Ah rigging one of the biggest old chestnuts of the scale modelling world. EZ line is ok, but personally I find the through holes method with fine fishing monofilament is easiest. Ez line and CA .5mm monofilament through holes. Both 1/48 My Airfix Swordfish still a work in progress .25mm monofilament. Thanks Marklo much appreciated, plenty to try and get my head around 😱 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Johnson said: Certainly does! Best wishes for the build. Cheers, Thanks Johnson was beginning to think I was the only one out there😱😂👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Hi folks Just a wee bit of an update Bit of a way to go, and quite slow but will keep you updated. All the best Take care & safe Si 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieS Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 13/03/2021 at 19:11, Marklo said: Ah rigging one of the biggest old chestnuts of the scale modelling world. EZ line is ok, but personally I find the through holes method with fine fishing monofilament is easiest. Ez line and CA .5mm monofilament through holes. Both 1/48 My Airfix Swordfish still a work in progress .25mm monofilament. Actually the Swordfish rigging was galvanised steel slats about 30mm(1.25 inches) * about 14mm (0.6 inches). I asked the Fleet air Arm museum for the information when building my Swordfish. Laurie 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Nice progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, LaurieS said: Actually the Swordfish rigging was galvanised steel slats about 30mm(1.25 inches) * about 14mm (0.6 inches). I asked the Fleet air Arm museum for the information when building my Swordfish. That would mean my monofilament isn’t as overscake as I thought. That’s good. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Simon, is it possible for you to post larger photos? These are quite small and hard for an ol' guy to see properly. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Great work Simon, starting to get there now, the prop will look good when you get some oil paint on it, I'm sure. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 34 minutes ago, LaurieS said: Actually the Swordfish rigging was galvanised steel slats about 30mm(1.25 inches) * about 14mm (0.6 inches). I asked the Fleet air Arm museum for the information when building my Swordfish. Laurie Thanks Laurie, I have a way to go yet but again duly noted and has gone in my little book Si 31 minutes ago, Hook said: Nice progress! Thank you 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, dogsbody said: Simon, is it possible for you to post larger photos? These are quite small and hard for an ol' guy to see properly. Chris Hi Chris I certainly will. I did actually think that myself when I attached them as Im an ol guy as well. Next lot will hopefully be 👌 Si 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Dyer Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, bigbadbadge said: Great work Simon, starting to get there now, the prop will look good when you get some oil paint on it, I'm sure. Chris Thanks Chris The reference Im using is from the Ammo Mig Encyclopedia of Aircraft Modelling Techniques (Vol 3), a superb set of books which recommends acrylics. So going to start with acrylics as I want to get used to using the medium, plus I would like to use it to get my head around my nemesis😱......figure painting🙄 I do have on hand though the very useful IPA bath just in case I need to start again🤣 and may well end up using oils Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Simon Dyer said: Thanks Chris The reference Im using is from the Ammo Mig Encyclopedia of Aircraft Modelling Techniques (Vol 3), a superb set of books which recommends acrylics. So going to start with acrylics as I want to get used to using the medium, plus I would like to use it to get my head around my nemesis😱......figure painting🙄 I do have on hand though the very useful IPA bath just in case I need to start again🤣 and may well end up using oils Si Hi Simon Sorry fella, I saw it with the bade coat on and automatically thought of oils for the wood effect, crikey using acrylics for it. I don't get on with them myself but will be interesting to see that. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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