johnlambert Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 No, this build won't include Browning machine guns, rotating number plates or an ejector seat. This is more about refining some of the details of this venerable kit, and taking a trip down memory lane as it is another kit I built back in my early teens. I've been working on this in the background of my other builds for a few weeks. This is the box art, which I think is slightly different from the version I built the first time around. I knew that the biggest issue would be the body, with a mix of flash and sink marks to correct. Here is the body straight out of the box and you might spot a little flash if you look carefully. What I wasn't expecting was the panel lines, I'm not sure if they were originally designed as raised edges or recesses, but over the years they have become both and neither at the same time. I decided I'd take the risk to try and scribe the panel lines myself. The front end is where the worst sink marks are found, and the bonnet scoop needs opening up. At the back Airfix simply didn't bother with half the boot shut line. Careful work with scriber and razor saw, I've tried to get the lines as steady as possible but they may be a little wobbly in places. Creating the bonnet panel gap was really tricky. The passenger side. Boot panel gap added, Not sure how accurate it is, but it's better than nothing. To try and get the tail lights fitting properly they were added to the body before any paint so that I could make good with filler. I've also had to scribe the fuel filler door. Front valance fitted and checking that the chassis fits. Pity about the gap at the edge of the floor, not sure there's much can be done with that. Starting to open up the bonnet vent. And cut open. Great gobs of filler! More filler on the valance. First coat of primer, just to see what further correction is necessary. Not quite sure about that face. Driver's side. At least the door gaps don't look too bad. Even the boot gap doesn't look too awful. Something I knew I'd need to address would be the kit wheels. As with the Airfix Jaguar E-type I built last summer I decided to go for some slot car wire wheels. First mock-up with the wheels just plonked in the arches. One handy thing is that you don't have to cut away any of the chassis to fit these wheels, the boss sticks out pretty much the same distance as the boss on the kit wheels. Sitting on the suspension, it looks better at something closer to the proper ride height. The suspension is not too badly represented, the rear assembly is quite fiddly with its separate coil springs and radius rods. It's probably not going to get much more than a quick spray with black paint. Plenty of rubbing down has happened (and camera lens was cleaned). That window line isn't right and needs improvement. That looks a bit more like the correct shape. Underside primed and rubbed down, Those stub axles need to be a little thicker for the wheels to sit better. Something else I noticed was the complete lack of detail for the sides of the interior, I'm not sure how much detail I'll add but I felt that some sort of representation would be better than nothing. You also get a weird gap where the rear seats and wheel arches don't quite meet. Adding some styrene to correct the gap, yes it needs trimming down. To keep this build well away from the best-known DB5 it isn't going to be silver or anything close. it will be burgundy with a black interior. I'm not usually a fan of black interiors but it feels right for this sort of Aston. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Looking good already: I'm sooooooooooooooooo glad you are sorting those wheels too. That alone will make a huge difference. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Hi John Good start. You're certainly taking great care to make the model look more like the real thing. Can't remember if I mentioned this but it might be worth fitting the front grill as I found there was a gap between the grill and the rest of the body. Oh and wheels looks good to. If only they made a 1:24 version... Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 I took advantage of an annual leave day to make more progress. The plastic fillets have done the job. I'm not sure what Airfix was on when it decided on the placement of the gear lever but it bears no relation to the position of the lever on the real car. The correct placement is more in line with the front edge of the seats. Old hole filled and a new hole drilled. There aren't any pedals in the kit, they may not be visible when it's completed but I thought I'd at least try to represent them (and the foot rest net to the clutch). @Fnick I see what you mean about the grille! Testing the fit of the front bumper. I've also added a small strip of styrene to help correct the shape of the bonnet scoop. A bit of filler added at the front. Checking the fit of the back bumper. This side doesn't seem to fit as well. I thought I'd have a go at Bare Metal Foil for the grille. Also trying BMF on the bumpers. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 I'm in! You're doing a grand job on making this kit into the thoroughbred the car was! I'm glad they included overriders on the bumpers. They, along with fully chromed road wheels, were apparently non-standard equipment on the DB-4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiny Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Well,if nothing else you've convinced me to scrupulously avoid this kit. But on the bright side, it does look as though all your work is beginning to pay off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 John, You have inspired me to get off my caboose! I have ordered one of these and am looking forward to a bit of hacking and bashing ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan R Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I built this kit years ago as a kid. All these gaps didn't seem to be a problem to me then. Much less critical eye then (50 plus years ago) Cheers, Alan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Alan R said: I built this kit years ago as a kid. All these gaps didn't seem to be a problem to me then. Much less critical eye then (50 plus years ago) Cheers, Alan. Same here, Alan, same here. It was one of the few Airfix cars that I managed to assemble so that the wheels were free to rotate. I think the other Airfix cars (E-type and MGB) I made I had to resort to gluing the wheels solidly to the axles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Nice classic project again. 1/32 is not y scale, but I will definitely follow this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 More good progress: the BMF grille looks far better than what you start with. And I ordered my wheels today: I think I'm going to try something a bit different. I do need windscreen wipers though (PE); do you have a source for them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouln Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Hi John, lots of work required to get this one right, I guess. But, when it was easy, you’d miss the challenge. Right?😉 So far looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toftdale Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Blimey John, you like a challenge! For some one who says they haven't had much practice with BMF the grill looks ace 👌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 Thanks everyone for the comments. I deliberately chose this kit because I fancied a challenge. The good thing about these kits is that you can practice with saws, filler and the like and don't have to worry that you've ruined a hard-to-find kit. @Sabrejet I hadn't thought about windscreen wipers, there are some moulded into the base of the clear windscreen part. For my Airfix E-type I soldered together some stiff, nickel silver wire to make the wipers; I might do the same here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Wow, what a terrible mould! Is it me, or is the roof bent too? It looks as though it leans to the right... Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Brandy said: Wow, what a terrible mould! Is it me, or is the roof bent too? It looks as though it leans to the right... Ian No, it's not you, the roof does have a lean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 How much, over & above the work you're doing on this John, would it take to turn one of these into a DB4, my absolute favourite AM. Afaik, its the same in the body to the DB5 apart from the front wings/headlights but of that I'm not totally sure. I can feel a plan hatching (or maybe its just wind?) Steve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 6 hours ago, stevehnz said: How much, over & above the work you're doing on this John, would it take to turn one of these into a DB4, my absolute favourite AM. Afaik, its the same in the body to the DB5 apart from the front wings/headlights but of that I'm not totally sure. I can feel a plan hatching (or maybe its just wind?) Steve. Strangely enough I was wondering the same thing. I suspect you could get away with extending the tops of the front wings and moving the headlamps forward. I've also wondered about shortening the body to make a DB4 GT, and even chopping off the roof to make a Volante. Given that the roof on this model is wonky, I may yet go down that route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, johnlambert said: make a DB4 GT Ooooh, now you're talking, that could be three I need. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyW Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 That's looking amazing. There's an Aston slowly appearing from the Airfix provided wreckage! The wheels make a huge difference. I tried my hand at one of these a while back. It completely defeated me. The mold is really poor, as you show. Mine had chunks of windscreen post missing altogether. Have you tried Molotow chrome inks? I use them all the time for chrome now. Tony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalensis Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Great work on this horrible old mould! Your improvements and the new wheels are moving it a long way. There is always something appealing with these old Airfix 1/32 cars, despite their shortcomings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Nice work John. Can you bend the roof in the correct shape ? Or does that require more surgery ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, stevehnz said: Ooooh, now you're talking, that could be three I need. Steve. Well funnily enough... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 You could get away with a lot more if you didn't expose the engine. Otherwise, there are 3 SU carbs in the DB-5 v. 2 SU in the DB-4 or 3 Weber in the DB-4GT (along with dual spark plugs) and I forget what else.Overdrive was an option on the DB-4. I know a pull switch was used to activate it, but I don't recall the switch being present without the option. I know the DB-4 did not come with a fire extinguisher, but I don't know where that was kept on the DB-5. Monogram made a 1/25 DB-4, which isn't bad except they stupidly put an alternator up top with fan belts to match. They messed up the spare tire and the whole general area. Wheels are a nightmare, but 3D-printed 15 inch 60-spoke wheels are available! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 Thanks for all the interest. I've given the roof a big tweak, I think it's made a difference. I just pushed against the lean, to the point where I thought it was going to break, and it seems to have sprung back closer to where it should be. I've also bunged some Tamiya Fine Surface Primer on the seats and dashboard. 11 hours ago, Bengalensis said: Great work on this horrible old mould! Your improvements and the new wheels are moving it a long way. There is always something appealing with these old Airfix 1/32 cars, despite their shortcomings. Thanks, yes it is an appealing subject and I think the basic shape of the DB5 is there, even if it feels as though it came out of a mould that was made of rubber instead of metal. 13 hours ago, TonyW said: That's looking amazing. There's an Aston slowly appearing from the Airfix provided wreckage! The wheels make a huge difference. I tried my hand at one of these a while back. It completely defeated me. The mold is really poor, as you show. Mine had chunks of windscreen post missing altogether. Have you tried Molotow chrome inks? I use them all the time for chrome now. Tony. Wow, yours sounds like it was really bad. Yes, I've got Molotow chrome, I'll use it where I can't get foil to work, I think the bumper overriders will be done with the chrome pen but the bumper blades will be wrapped. 5 hours ago, dnl42 said: You could get away with a lot more if you didn't expose the engine. Otherwise, there are 3 SU carbs in the DB-5 v. 2 SU in the DB-4 or 3 Weber in the DB-4GT (along with dual spark plugs) and I forget what else.Overdrive was an option on the DB-4. I know a pull switch was used to activate it, but I don't recall the switch being present without the option. I know the DB-4 did not come with a fire extinguisher, but I don't know where that was kept on the DB-5. Monogram made a 1/25 DB-4, which isn't bad except they stupidly put an alternator up top with fan belts to match. They messed up the spare tire and the whole general area. Wheels are a nightmare, but 3D-printed 15 inch 60-spoke wheels are available! The good thing about the Airfix 1/32 kit is the lack of engine detail. I dread to think what that would be like if there were any! Having wired a twin-plug straight six in 1/25 there's no way I'd want to wire a 32nd scale DB4 GT motor! The Monogram 1/25 DB4 is on my list of kits I will get one day (I'll try and remember about the alternator). I built the Monogram Maserati 3500GT, I think the DB4 would sit nicely next to it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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