Wandering Minstrel Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I'm building up to mating my Matchbox Hawk 200 with an Italeri Hawk 100 and a resin Sea Harrier radome to try and make something out of the mostly intact kit that's sat in a freezer bag in my desk drawer for a few years. Has anyone here attempted something similar and how did it go? I'll be building it as a what if IAC aircraft so absolute accuracy isn't my intention but I would like to finish with something that's recognisably a Hawk when sat next to one of its two seat bretheren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougC Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I'm no expert on this but since nobody else has replied.... I looked at this a few years ago but never got as far as cutting any plastic. My initial thought was the same as yours: mate the front half of the Matchbox Hawk 200 with the rear & wings of either an Airfix/ Italeri Hawk 100 & scratchbuild a radome from somewhere. However, the Matchbox kit is pretty poor: - the forward fuselage doesn't bear much resemblence to even the prototypes (ZG & ZH200), let alone the production series aircraft, it's way too "pinched" looking - the angle of the cockpit & canopy is wrong....but so are most of the plans available, so it's best to work from photos - the prototypes were originally planned to have two guns mounted internally in a deeper "canoe" under the forward fuselage; the production aircraft don't have any guns but they still seem to have a slightly bulged section of fuselage - the radome is all wrong as you know Unless you specifically have your heart set on using the Matchbox kit, there are/ were a couple of resin conversions available: - Neomega (OOP but sometimes available on eBay) - Naza Model Art (a Mexican company with a Facebook page but don't seem to reply to enquiries) - Air-Graphic Models (previously Aviation Workshop?) were also planning to produce one last year but that seems to have gone quiet My plan was to use as much of the Hawk 100 fuselage as possible, source/ cast a new radome & blend the bit in between with plastic card, filler & endless sanding. The Matchbox canopy might be useable. There were previously couple of good threads on Britmodeller - just type "Hawk 200" into the search function. Good luck & post photos! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagRigger Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Did exactly that - I had an old resin FA2 radome, the Matchbox Hawk 200 and an Airfix back end 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Minstrel Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 16 hours ago, DougC said: I'm no expert on this but since nobody else has replied.... I looked at this a few years ago but never got as far as cutting any plastic. My initial thought was the same as yours: mate the front half of the Matchbox Hawk 200 with the rear & wings of either an Airfix/ Italeri Hawk 100 & scratchbuild a radome from somewhere. However, the Matchbox kit is pretty poor: - the forward fuselage doesn't bear much resemblence to even the prototypes (ZG & ZH200), let alone the production series aircraft, it's way too "pinched" looking - the angle of the cockpit & canopy is wrong....but so are most of the plans available, so it's best to work from photos - the prototypes were originally planned to have two guns mounted internally in a deeper "canoe" under the forward fuselage; the production aircraft don't have any guns but they still seem to have a slightly bulged section of fuselage - the radome is all wrong as you know Unless you specifically have your heart set on using the Matchbox kit, there are/ were a couple of resin conversions available: - Neomega (OOP but sometimes available on eBay) - Naza Model Art (a Mexican company with a Facebook page but don't seem to reply to enquiries) - Air-Graphic Models (previously Aviation Workshop?) were also planning to produce one last year but that seems to have gone quiet My plan was to use as much of the Hawk 100 fuselage as possible, source/ cast a new radome & blend the bit in between with plastic card, filler & endless sanding. The Matchbox canopy might be useable. There were previously couple of good threads on Britmodeller - just type "Hawk 200" into the search function. Good luck & post photos! Thanks for the guidance there, it sounds like a more involved job than I initially thought! I'm mostly planning on using the Matchbox kit as I've had it for more years than I care to remember and as it's missing a wing anyway this is as good a way to actually build it as any. As my plan is a what if anyway it's giving me a little bit of leeway as it only has to look reasonably accurate in the end. Still planning to post pics when i get round to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Minstrel Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 hours ago, JagRigger said: Did exactly that - I had an old resin FA2 radome, the Matchbox Hawk 200 and an Airfix back end That looks just like I hope mine will (eventually), where's the split between the fuselages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagRigger Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Right behind the cockpit - used as little Matchbox as possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfv Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I'm currently working on the same thing myself, 1/72 Matchbox cockpit section & canopy, Airfix fuselage/wings/tail & resin nose from a Sea Harrier FA2 conversion set. Planning to add RWR and wing tip launch rails like the T2. Thinking of a 'what-if' RAuxAF scheme 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Minstrel Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 2:20 AM, murfv said: I'm currently working on the same thing myself, 1/72 Matchbox cockpit section & canopy, Airfix fuselage/wings/tail & resin nose from a Sea Harrier FA2 conversion set. Planning to add RWR and wing tip launch rails like the T2. Thinking of a 'what-if' RAuxAF scheme That's exactly what I'm hoping to achieve, although I'll be using the back end of an Italeri Hawk 100 for my one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougC Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 2:20 AM, murfv said: I'm currently working on the same thing myself, 1/72 Matchbox cockpit section & canopy, Airfix fuselage/wings/tail & resin nose from a Sea Harrier FA2 conversion set. Looks great! Which Shar FA2 resin nose are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murfv Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, DougC said: Looks great! Which Shar FA2 resin nose are you using? I am using the one from the Sea Harrier FA2 conversion for the ESCI/Italeri kit that I picked up years ago. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/whirlybits-wba-72017-sea-harrier-fa2-conversion-kit--187380 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogs007 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 On 24/02/2021 at 23:02, DougC said: I'm no expert on this but since nobody else has replied.... I looked at this a few years ago but never got as far as cutting any plastic. My initial thought was the same as yours: mate the front half of the Matchbox Hawk 200 with the rear & wings of either an Airfix/ Italeri Hawk 100 & scratchbuild a radome from somewhere. However, the Matchbox kit is pretty poor: - the forward fuselage doesn't bear much resemblence to even the prototypes (ZG & ZH200), let alone the production series aircraft, it's way too "pinched" looking - the angle of the cockpit & canopy is wrong....but so are most of the plans available, so it's best to work from photos - the prototypes were originally planned to have two guns mounted internally in a deeper "canoe" under the forward fuselage; the production aircraft don't have any guns but they still seem to have a slightly bulged section of fuselage - the radome is all wrong as you know Unless you specifically have your heart set on using the Matchbox kit, there are/ were a couple of resin conversions available: - Neomega (OOP but sometimes available on eBay) - Naza Model Art (a Mexican company with a Facebook page but don't seem to reply to enquiries) - Air-Graphic Models (previously Aviation Workshop?) were also planning to produce one last year but that seems to have gone quiet My plan was to use as much of the Hawk 100 fuselage as possible, source/ cast a new radome & blend the bit in between with plastic card, filler & endless sanding. The Matchbox canopy might be useable. There were previously couple of good threads on Britmodeller - just type "Hawk 200" into the search function. Good luck & post photos! The air graphic one was available, it showing as on back order at the moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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