Jonners Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Nice one, Ced; I'll definitely be watching. I would give my eye teeth to have a go in a Dragonfly although, probably extremely sensibly, I don't think that there are any airworthy examples remaining. They were so different to their modern counterparts that it would be really interesting to be able to experience 'early days' helicopter flying - a twist-grip throttle with no rotor speed governing, a radial engine, fabric-covered blades on the early models, very limited payload, moveable ballast to keep the CofG within limits etc. Actually, I'm frightening myself even thinking about it! I'll just stick to my big 'n brash modern Sikorsky... I've been tempted by this kit but, as modelling will be taking a back seat for the foreseeable future, I'll have to do it vicariously through this thread. Jon 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsticker Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Hi Ced, Page 2 already??!! I just can't keep up with your builds Must try harder................ All the best Geoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 17 hours ago, Heather Kay said: Thanks Heather - great tip, once the felt tip stopped slipping 16 hours ago, Lewis95 said: Oof. An Acetate sheet.... I've not tackled one of those yet! Think I'll need another Leffe before I do... Um, acetate? Not quite Lewis (see below) Acetate is easy though - paint the back (if you have to) and stick on with Klear or GG or something that goes clear - easy! Apart from lining up, that's a pain… 14 hours ago, Mr T said: This looks interesting. I am thinking of getting an RAF one to go with my Whirlykits RN one, so will be watching. Round the Horne brings back memories of Sunday lunch, I still laugh at it now. Amazing what Kenneth Williams and Hugh Paddick got away with when they were speaking Polari. Oooo, inni bold! 13 hours ago, John Masters said: I started one of the these a few months back for the Vietnam GB--French livery... I really hope you have better luck and I am sure you have better modelling skills. I gave up. Mine now sits 1/3 done on the Shelf of Shame. I watch yours with great interest and hope. Thanks for the warning John, I'll be more careful if you've had problems 12 hours ago, perdu said: Oh Ced what have you done? I've only gone and opened the damned box again... No, not soon but it may be this year. After 12 hours ago, TheBaron said: Oh Ced what have you done? #2 Bill, Tony, now I see why the LF models kit caused so much excitement - those two look HARD! 12 hours ago, keefr22 said: I've got one of those somewhere too Tony. Luckily I've forgotten where I buried it....!! Keith 8 hours ago, chrislowe said: Can't wait to see this one, I love a helicopter. Glad you're feeling better. Thanks Chris 58 minutes ago, Jonners said: Nice one, Ced; I'll definitely be watching. I would give my eye teeth to have a go in a Dragonfly although, probably extremely sensibly, I don't think that there are any airworthy examples remaining. They were so different to their modern counterparts that it would be really interesting to be able to experience 'early days' helicopter flying - a twist-grip throttle with no rotor speed governing, a radial engine, fabric-covered blades on the early models, very limited payload, moveable ballast to keep the CofG within limits etc. Actually, I'm frightening myself even thinking about it! I'll just stick to my big 'n brash modern Sikorsky... I've been tempted by this kit but, as modelling will be taking a back seat for the foreseeable future, I'll have to do it vicariously through this thread. Jon Thanks Jonners My very limited experience of flying helicopters was a wide circuit in an Engstrom at Thruxton. Hated it. I mean, the thing has drive belts! Better not say any more in case Crisp comes along later 1 minute ago, Kitsticker said: Hi Ced, Page 2 already??!! I just can't keep up with your builds Must try harder................ All the best Geoff Welcome Geoff - I'm getting back up to speed, hopefully 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 Now then, what's this? Thick paper, shiny surface. Could it be a transfer? Only one way to find out: Note that I tested on a spare bit. A rare moment of common sense. After some plenging and poking: Er, that's a no then. It's on now with GG Thin: Now then, I think you should always read and follow instructions. Do as I say not as I do, of course. 'Cos if I'd followed instructions I would have stuck these tiny, tiny circles on the sides of the console before I assembled it: Can you see them on the PE sheet? Bit left of centre. They've cleverly arranged the PE so that the 'dots' are in the right place. I guess you're supposed to put some glue somewhere and offer up the sheet to the plastic and then, somehow, cut the dots off the sheet. Somehow. No, there aren't any marks on the plastic. I'm going to have to guess. I guess. Great. 12 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
825 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I've always liked a Dragonfly. I built a Mach2 one a few years ago for a Heli GB and it was a real challenge. I'm not sure wether this one is less challenging, probably different challenges for this build. Apart from the vac form and the loads of etch it looks more straightforward. @Dandie Dinmont I've been vaccinating people since before the New Year and have now done hundreds and nobody has fallen over. In fact from a couple of screamers (there has to be such a reference in a Ced build) everything has been straightforward. I appreciate your apprehension but apart from probably a sore arm for a day or two and maybe some flu like symptoms you should be OK. Sorry for the OT Ced. Will be following this build as I have a whirlybird one in the stash and I'm sure there's more to learn. Good luck with the build. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 A bit late to the party, but better late than never, Pleased to see one of these on the go, my quite like hasn't risen to need status yet. That could change depending on how you find it. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, 825 said: I've always liked a Dragonfly. I built a Mach2 one a few years ago for a Heli GB and it was a real challenge. I'm not sure wether this one is less challenging, probably different challenges for this build. Apart from the vac form and the loads of etch it looks more straightforward. "Apart from the vac form" are words that bring fear to my heart 27 minutes ago, 825 said: @Dandie Dinmont I've been vaccinating people since before the New Year and have now done hundreds and nobody has fallen over. In fact from a couple of screamers (there has to be such a reference in a Ced build) everything has been straightforward. I appreciate your apprehension but apart from probably a sore arm for a day or two and maybe some flu like symptoms you should be OK. Sorry for the OT Ced. Will be following this build as I have a whirlybird one in the stash and I'm sure there's more to learn. Good luck with the build. Good news 825 (Chris? Sorry I've forgotten) 'Some flu like symptoms' is my experience but I think, like most of my mess ups, it's rare among others! 18 minutes ago, stevehnz said: A bit late to the party, but better late than never, Pleased to see one of these on the go, my quite like hasn't risen to need status yet. That could change depending on how you find it. Steve. I'll try to increase your 'need' Steve. Oooh, sounds a bit like a drug dealer… 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 Let's try this: Regular readers will know that, if there's a rule in the photo, I'm trying to impress you with the tininess of the parts. Unusual I know (fnaar!) By applying this to the plastic: … I should be able to peel back the tape and stick the bits down with GG Thin: Now all I need to do is cut off the nubs. Without chopping off my fingers. Simples. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 For tiny bits like those, I use a slightly different approach: I lay the PE fret on some double sided adhesive tape, cut the parts off, remove the fret, carefully lift one part at a time with the tip of a sharp knife and place it on a non-sticky surface nearby, and eventually use one of those pick-up wax pencils to hold it, prep with glue and pose in place. Does this make any sense to you? Ciao 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, 825 said: apart from probably a sore arm for a day or two and maybe some flu like symptoms you should be OK. Everyone I know who've been jabbed have these and maybe fewer side effects. 1 hour ago, CedB said: Thanks for the warning John Most of my trouble had to do with the actual fit of the moulded pieces. Maybe I received a poorly injected kit. My enthusiasm waned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I have a slightly different approach to tiny PE pieces also, I don’t use them. 🤣 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Yes Ced, love the Dragonfly, a good start, so I'll watch in.. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feifeitim Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Late as usual! Apologies Ced and no excuse really being 8 hours ahead! No popcorn here so got the rice crackers on the go. Looking forward to seeing how the nub cutting goes - sounds rather unpleasant! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, CedB said: They've cleverly arranged the PE so that the 'dots' are in the right place. I guess you're supposed to put some glue somewhere and offer up the sheet to the plastic and then, somehow, cut the dots off the sheet. Somehow. No, there aren't any marks on the plastic. I'm going to have to guess. I guess Can you use them as masks? Hold the pe over the part, spray, stick pe on unpainted bits? Just a thought. Btw, very gallant of you to point out that Bill and Tony's choppers look harder than yours! Ian 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, giemme said: For tiny bits like those, I use a slightly different approach: I lay the PE fret on some double sided adhesive tape, cut the parts off, remove the fret, carefully lift one part at a time with the tip of a sharp knife and place it on a non-sticky surface nearby, and eventually use one of those pick-up wax pencils to hold it, prep with glue and pose in place. Does this make any sense to you? Ciao Ah, the patient approach I might try that later… 3 hours ago, John Masters said: Everyone I know who've been jabbed have these and maybe fewer side effects. Most of my trouble had to do with the actual fit of the moulded pieces. Maybe I received a poorly injected kit. My enthusiasm waned. Good news on the jabs John Hopefully mine will fit better… 2 hours ago, Biggles87 said: I have a slightly different approach to tiny PE pieces also, I don’t use them. 🤣 Even better tip John 2 hours ago, heloman1 said: Yes Ced, love the Dragonfly, a good start, so I'll watch in.. Colin Welcome Colin 2 hours ago, feifeitim said: Late as usual! Apologies Ced and no excuse really being 8 hours ahead! No popcorn here so got the rice crackers on the go. Looking forward to seeing how the nub cutting goes - sounds rather unpleasant! Nub sitting done! 1 hour ago, Brandy said: Can you use them as masks? Hold the pe over the part, spray, stick pe on unpainted bits? Just a thought. Btw, very gallant of you to point out that Bill and Tony's choppers look harder than yours! Ian Good idea Ian, but they're on now Er, fnaar snurf? Had enough of tiny PE for today: I think I might do some Swift transfers. 15 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 ooooh nice job Ced. Out of the box thinking too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Some seriously small bits of PE there CeD and this brilliant work. The AVF/Britavia Dragonfly shown earlier forms the basis for the Whirlykits one I built for a GB last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, CedB said: Nub sitting done! That sounds just as painful as cutting.... !! 🤣 K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I have something similar on the bench, the AMP Sycamore. The first chopper I ever flew in as and air Cadet. Good kit, some reservations but he only game in town. Incidentally, I got a three and a half hour flight that day, got back to the camp/airfield just in time for lunch. The rest of the squadron was seriously jealous! Colin 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Brandy said: Btw, very gallant of you to point out that Bill and Tony's choppers look harder than yours! They're all quite small though, aren't they? (Okay, I'll get my coat...) 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, heloman1 said: Sycamore. The first chopper I ever flew in as and air Cadet. Superb! Another one on my 'I'd-love-to-have-tried-it-but-would-probably-have-been-scared' wish list! Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 4 hours ago, CedB said: Er, fnaar snurf? Huzzah! Ced's feeling better! Relieved of Mars 👽 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, heloman1 said: The rest of the squadron was seriously jealous! Me too Colin, the first helicopter that flew into my conciousness was a large silver 'wind-up' toy Dragonfly that was on sale in FW Woolies and which I nagged my mom and dad into buying for me. I proudly took it to school and flew it round with the clockwork wheels whizzing and rotors circulating. The die was cast. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Oooh a flying piano!! Excellent. Lovely and strange looking thing. For the PE I’d have taken a pic then popped each one off and eyeballed it. I did like your way however although I would have chopped into my finger for sure cutting those little bits off. Do you need pilots btw. I have the ones from my hind a . I was waiting until I have more but there are a few so I can send em along if you like. Johnny 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Definitely some nice work on the console. Personally I hate PE. I’m also kicking myself for missing all the possible jokes about @CedB showing us his chopper, but it’s just too late in the thread. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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