Andreas.R Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) Hello, this will be my 2. attempt to build this model. This time i will use a wooden deck (genuine 1:350 deck from ARTWOX), a new challenge!, I used only a few parts from the ICM Koenig kit. the hull, main decks, gun turrets, boats and casemates. All the rest has been printed by shapeways. I have to print all the little tiny deck details in 3D and glue them on the wooden deck. Does anybody have experience with not pre-cutted genuine decks? I use the hull and the turrets of a Koenig 1:350 ICM Kit, turning the main aft deck upside down, to avoid removing all the molded on deck details. The 2 superstructures will be 3D printed. Regards Andreas Edited November 27, 2022 by Andreas.R missing pic´s 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Sorry, can't answer your question but it looks an interesting project. I was exploring the idea of some kind of generic wooden deck for my future ship build. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 The generic wooden deck looks very good, but i think it won`t be easy to attach. I don´t yet know how to glue the deck details on - and how to cut out the bigger parts like the barbettes. Hopefully there are two decks! The upper deck will be the challenge! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 Made some progress, i am quiet satisfied! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Nice. So how did you mark, cut out and stick your deck? Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 Before I glued in the turned and adapted deck, I transferred it to the wooden deck as a template (about 2mm narrower). it is important that you have left a little less than 1 mm to sand it off after it had been glued on. On the back (the plastic foil) I used the upper deck as a template to just cut the foil/film. (I still want to use the other part) So I was able to cut out the inner part after gluing it on. This part does not have to be cut so precisely. The wooden deck can be cut and detached after it has been glued on. It can be cut well, but the film is relatively thick- The white strips are very thin evergreen sheets where the casemates should be glued on. Andreas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 I made some progress with the upper deck! Waiting for the 3D printed main and secondary guns, so i can install Casemate guns and fix the deck. The 3D printed bollards and a few skylights where also glued on the aft deck. The aft superstructure is also "virtually" on the bench! Regards Andreas 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 After I have glued the wooden deck on, I would like to tell you about my experiences. I used a wooden deck for the first time. With such an genuine deck (not pre-cut) you should remove all deck details - it is almost impossible to cut these small pieces out properly! I 3D printed all that tiny deck details.(bollards, skylights, scuttles etc.) Since these decks are slightly transparent, the surface should be pre-painted! After sticking it on, I treated the deck 2 times with thinned FUTURE. This makes it easier to glue the details on, and it is also possible to remove acrylic paint again. Thanks for looking! Cheers Andreas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 I just have made some progress with the upper deck! It was not as easy as i thought due to the asymmetrical design of the casemates of the mid artillery. Here are some pic`s of the test fit, The scratch build is already finished, now only the 3D printed parts have to be attached. Thanks for looking! Regards Andreas 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) Hello! I have made some progress: the upper deck is now glued on. It was not easy to to adapt the upper deck because of the casemats. they are rounded at the top. Due to the wooden deck, the construction stages were reversed than I would otherwise. There is still some fine-tuning to be done. I think it worked out quite well. thanks for looking! Regards Andreas Edited April 3, 2021 by Andreas.R correction 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Gidday Andreas, I've never done a wooden deck as my ship builds are too small I think. But yours looks very good. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 Gidday to all! The anchors, chains and capstan wheels have been attached! There are already many small coal hatches glued on, but many are still missing. All the gun barrels are 3D printed, replacing the out of round, droopy, plastic original parts. The turrets are held magnetically on the barbettes and can be rotated. Thanks for looking and stay safe! Andreas 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Gidday Andreas, I would never have thought of using magnets for locking in the turrets. I use a keyway and slot to lock mine in and yet allow them to rotate. An idea I got from Britmodeller. Those turrets and guns look good. Regards, Jeff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 Hello, I have made some progress with the bow area! Thanks for looking! Regards Andreas 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Small but perfect details are making a huge difference to this build. Stay Safe beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 After a long stay in Italy, I'm back. Shortly before I left, I took advantage of an offer from 3D Jake and ordered a Phrozen Mini 4K. On my return I found the printer and 4 super-printed propellers from Iceman 29. I would like to thank Pascal very much! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 4/20/2021 at 5:56 PM, Andreas.R said: Hello, I have made some progress with the bow area! Thanks for looking! Regards Andreas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) Unfortunately I didn't have enough time to update this post. After getting stuck with my Phrozen Mini 4K, I printed the parts with Shapeways. I glued and painted the details on the aft deck, skylights, bollards and winches. The rear and front superstructures are also printed and painted. The funnels must be printed again. I hope that I can do this with my own printer. The front superstructure: The aft superstructure: Regards Andreas Edited March 10, 2022 by Andreas.R correction 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuNo02100 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Outstanding work, a peek into what the future of scale modeling will look like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) Hello, a few more pictures of the front superstructure and turret. The floats are much better than the original parts. The front superstructure consists of several parts. The X-shaped part in front of the funnel will be removed, it prevents the very thin supports from breaking off. All parts are printed with Shapeways. the parts of the front superstructure The painting still needs to be improved in detail, but it doesn't look that bad at all. Thanks for looking! Regards Andreas Edited March 12, 2022 by Andreas.R missing pic´s 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 This is looking excellent. I love the 3d printed parts but Shapeways is an expensive route to take. I hope you get your printer sorted soon! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Hello, I've made progress on the front superstructure. The so-called admiral's bridge is glued in place and the railings are covered with canvas. The windows look very good, especially the ones in front below. The life rafts are also 3D printed and look way better than the original parts. I used 2 different PE railings, the 3 bar railings from the original König detail set are very week and difficult to install. The other came from Seemann and are made of steel, hard to bent but very stable. The crane needs to be redesigned because the angle of the arm is different from the rear one. The design of the Kaiser class Battleships is very asymmetrical. Thanks for looking! Regards Andreas Edited April 3, 2022 by Andreas.R correction 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 12:30 PM, Andreas.R said: railings are covered with canvas. Looking very nice. What did you use for the canvas additions? Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) Hello Stuart, my first thought was to use very thin cigarette paper and stick it on with white glue. When I had applied the white adhesive, a very thin skin formed between the railing-bars, which were already very closely spaced. I then applied a 2nd layer (holes appeared in a few places) The adhesive held up well because the railing was already painted. When the white glue dried, I painted the whole thing with a slightly different shade of gray (stone grey), looks quite realistic! Regards Andreas Edited April 5, 2022 by Andreas.R 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas.R Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 after a long time i can report some small progress again! On the aft deck I added a few small details, skylights, the torpedo loading boom and hatches. All these details have been 3D printed, and are far better detailed than the original parts. The aft boat loading crane has to be rigged, the aft superstructure is not yet glued on. I also changed the anchor chain, the first anchor chain had very round links, which I didn't like very much. The tiny ship bell is also 3D printed. I hope that construction will now pick up speed again! Thanks for looking! Regards Andreas 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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