FNHP35 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I am currently building an old ESCI F-15A/C 1/72 scale model and I was looking at it and reference photos and noticed that the model has a small beaver tail between the nozzles that seems to be absent in many of the later images of both A and C models. I searched and I couldn't find much on when they started removing the beaver tail and I am not even sure what it did. Was it removed during Msip2? When did they start removing them and why? Just wondering if I need to perform some surgery on the model to make it more correct. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT7567 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) What you call a "beaver tail" is an aerodynamic fairing that primarily acted as a cover for the end of the emergency tailhook (the hook end fit into a recess in the underside of the fairing). To the best of my knowledge these were present on all A-D model Eagles as built, but done away with on the F-15E model. At some point well after the Strike Eagle entered service, the fairings were removed from at least most of the fighter airframes as well. I don't believe the deletion of the fairing was related to the MSIP upgrades, however in practice those updates were rolled out in varied portions at different times due to various maintenance & procurement factors, so there isn't a single universal configuration for all the updates (abd there were other changes to the airframe that happened more or less concurrently that were unrelated to the MSIP refits). I can say definitively from references that the early MSIP birds serving in Desert Storm still had the fairing, but can't place a specific timeframe on how long after that they were retained. At a minimum, if it was still in the Compass Ghost scheme the fairing was almost certainly still there, but past the mid-90s you'd have to check references. Edited February 6, 2021 by CT7567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f111guru Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 The below picture were taken in the mid 90's at an airshow from Cannon AFB New Mexico. The first image is an F-15E from the 366th FW Mountain Home Idaho. As with all E models it does not have the fairing for the tail hook. The next photo is from an F-15E Seymour Johnson AFB and as with all E models does not have the fairing. This bottom picture was taken about the same time frame in the mid 90's. It is an F-15C from the 366th FW Mountain Home Idaho. It does not have the fairing for the end of the tail hook. I do not know when the fairing was removed or which production block deleted the fairing. This last image is a F-15C? at Dyess AFB Abiline Texas. So if anything, I hope this helps and if anyone knows for sure chime in. All The Best, Ron VanDerwarker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 this one should be an A this one too as saber drains are present and there are only two antennas up front this is a C also notice wing plating Another A I think Luigi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) On 2/6/2021 at 12:22 AM, FNHP35 said: I am currently building an old ESCI F-15A/C 1/72 scale model and I was looking at it and reference photos and noticed that the model has a small beaver tail between the nozzles that seems to be absent in many of the later images of both A and C models. I searched and I couldn't find much on when they started removing the beaver tail and I am not even sure what it did. Was it removed during Msip2? When did they start removing them and why? Just wondering if I need to perform some surgery on the model to make it more correct. Thanks. The arresting hook fairing was removed in the early to mid 90s (basically the 93/94 timeframe). Additionally, the prominent drains underneath the engine compartment were removed, much to the relief of the maintainers; I saw one crew chief get an impressive gash on his back as he hurriedly preflighted a jet when I had to hop to a spare. Finally, the grate on the JFS exhaust was removed as part of the same mod. On 2/6/2021 at 1:42 AM, CT7567 said: I don't believe the deletion of the fairing was related to the MSIP upgrades... Totally unrelated. MSIP started in the mid-80s, but the airframe mods discussed here took place in the mid-90s. Regards, Murph Edited March 15, 2021 by Murph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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