Bertie McBoatface Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, PlaStix said: They do seem a bit thin on the ground these days and I think it's got harder to get any AFV STGBs into being an actual GB with the new rules, because more people on Britmodeller build aircraft - hence more people will vote for aircraft GBs rather than AFV GBs. Unless really popular AFVs are proposed and the AFV Britmodeller community get behind them, then we may not see any in future. We can still build tanks in other suitable GBs, but I think we may not see many Single Type Tank GBs in future. In the past, Single Type GBs got through if 25 modellers signed up to take part. These days this only gets them through to the voting (bunfight) where they will struggle to get enough votes because more modellers like aircraft. That's a pity, both generally and personally, just as I joined, the rules changed. Ping it! Would it be allowed to run a 'not quite a group build' in the same way that the Tiger Superthread operates, I wonder? Just getting a dozen or so guys to post builds in one place. Or maybe just agree a time for simultaneous WIPs with common titles for ease of locating (AAA T-34 GB - Pete's build etc). There has to be a way to do it for smaller modeller numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Enzo Matrix said: A while back there was some talk of having quotas in the STGB section. I would hate to see AFV STGBs fall by the wayside, especially when so much work was put into getting them moving in the first place. Maybe it is time to revisit that discussion. Maybe it can be proposed that 25% of STGBs in any one year are dedicated to non-aircraft subjects. 3 minutes ago, Bertie Psmith said: That's a pity, both generally and personally, just as I joined, the rules changed. Ping it! Would it be allowed to run a 'not quite a group build' in the same way that the Tiger Superthread operates, I wonder? Just getting a dozen or so guys to post builds in one place. Or maybe just agree a time for simultaneous WIPs with common titles for ease of locating (AAA T-34 GB - Pete's build etc). There has to be a way to do it for smaller modeller numbers. Hi Both. I think Enzo's 25% quota idea for non-aircraft STGBs would certainly help. Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I agree with the comments about AFV GB's. As unofficial tally keeper of the annual "Bumfight" and purveyor of all things AM. I have noticed any STGB that has wing does have a much greater chance of going through. While the AFV builds seem to cannibalise themselves in an effort to trying make it through. We may have to go back to the earlier system where a couple of spots are reserved for non wingy things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, PlaStix said: Hi Both. I think Enzo's 25% quota idea for non-aircraft STGBs would certainly help. Kind regards, Stix The quota percentage could be based on the relative numbers of RFIs in the different sections perhaps? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bertie Psmith said: The quota percentage could be based on the relative numbers of RFIs in the different sections perhaps? Ooh! I do like solutions based on empirical evidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, Enzo Matrix said: Ooh! I do like solutions based on empirical evidence. It might avoid kickback from the plane makers. And to be fair, it would be more fair. I bet there's more than 75% aircraft built here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diases Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 During the discussions about the way GB's and STGB's were allocated, I proposed a few slots be allocated to non-aircraft subjects. But with the proposals going to a vote of the general population, the amount of aircraft only people will always win out. The only real answer is to have a quota system, but that also causes resentment, ie a small interest subject gets preference over more popular things. Maybe, as Bertie suggested, a area could be setup under each section (aircraft, armour, ships, etc) so ad hoc builds could be organised within that community. It would take away from the annual bunfight, but at least would allow like minded people to build lesser / more specialist subjects which have little chance of successfully being voted through. Just my opinion Paul 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, diases said: During the discussions about the way GB's and STGB's were allocated, I proposed a few slots be allocated to non-aircraft subjects. But with the proposals going to a vote of the general population, the amount of aircraft only people will always win out. The only real answer is to have a quota system, but that also causes resentment, ie a small interest subject gets preference over more popular things. Maybe, as Bertie suggested, a area could be setup under each section (aircraft, armour, ships, etc) so ad hoc builds could be organised within that community. It would take away from the annual bunfight, but at least would allow like minded people to build lesser / more specialist subjects which have little chance of successfully being voted through. Just my opinion Paul Well, with the armor section there is a Rebel group with an unofficial Tiger I group build… And I totally missed the F18 Hornet GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Speaking of group builds, can anyone tell me when the M3/M4 STGB is starting? It must be sometime soon. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Bertie Psmith said: Speaking of group builds, can anyone tell me when the M3/M4 STGB is starting? It must be sometime soon. Next Saturday - March 19, 2022 cheers, Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Longbow said: Well, with the armor section there is a Rebel group with an unofficial Tiger I group build… And I totally missed the F18 Hornet GB. This is a topic that has been much discussed before. In general there is nothing stopping a small group of interested builders from holding their own impromptu Group Build, short term like a week long or longer term like several weeks or perhaps even months or perhaps even never ending. Start a topic under the work in progress ( WIP ) section much like that very long topic on the Tiger where everyone interested can post and chat about the activity and where anyone interested in following along with a build can then just post in the WIP and read for inspection ( RFI ) section OR if you want to be a real radical, everyone can just post their WIP activities in the main topic and their RFI in one RFI topic or some other variation. All to be complimentary and supplementary to the normal Group Build activities and should not be viewed as a replacement. cheers, Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Hi Stix Thank you for the reminder I hope that I will find time to join but I really don't think that I will join this Gb as soon as it will begins .. Best Regards Patrice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 hui, time flies! the last Sherman GB is not that long ago it feels!.. I should have an 48th scale M10 lurking around... so maybe this makes the obtacles other GBs put in its way.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 18 hours ago, Longbow said: Well, with the armor section there is a Rebel group with an unofficial Tiger I group build… They are not rebels. They are following all the rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Enzo Matrix said: They are not rebels. They are following all the rules. And for those of us with no interest in Tiger tanks, they keep the forum tidy. 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, Bertie Psmith said: And for those of us with no interest in Tiger tanks, they keep the forum tidy. 😉 We do our best to 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, Longbow said: We do our best to 🤣 Don't tell anyone but I have no interest in Shermen either. Those two tanks are the Spitfire and Messerschmitt of the AFV world, and I personally find them boring as ping. Heresy, I know, but they just aren't odd enough to hold my interest. The M3 Medium now, that's a weird one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Bertie Psmith said: Those two tanks are the Spitfire and Messerschmitt of the AFV world writing that after finishing a F-4 Phantom....the jet equivalent somehow... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 In all the years I have been making models I have never built one of a Tiger, Panther, or Sherman. My preference has always been towards the less common and offbeat subject. cheers Graham 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, exdraken said: writing that after finishing a F-4 Phantom....the jet equivalent somehow... Dead right, and I've done three of them in the last six months. No wonder I've gone off aeroplanes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, ColonelKrypton said: In all the years I have been making models I have never built one of a Tiger, Panther, or Sherman. My preference has always been towards the less common and offbeat subject. cheers Graham Putting the 'odd' into moddelling, as I like to say.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, exdraken said: writing that after finishing a F-4 Phantom....the jet equivalent somehow... I was considering the Hasagawa F4 Showtime 100, just the other day 🤣 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, ColonelKrypton said: In all the years I have been making models I have never built one of a Tiger, Panther, or Sherman. My preference has always been towards the less common and offbeat subject. cheers Graham A suggestion: You can always do the odd one within this group of subjects as well.... I for myself did a French Panther and a Spanish PIV and StugIII.... With Tigers indeed it is a bit more difficult if it should be operational examples! Shermans on the other hand.... Any good /interesting ideas for a M10?? Thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, exdraken said: Any good /interesting ideas for am M10?? Thanks! Have the crew drying their freshly washed uniforms over the MG and the gun barrel? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 You can up-armor the M10 by adding the roof and side plates ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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