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Hi all, 

 

A plea for reassurance! 
 

My intended Su-7 build has a reference photo, in black and white, and clearly shows a demarcation line on the nose between the upper grey(?) and a lighter underside. The only other photos I have found if similar machines, with such a demarcation, and in colour, show a blue grey as the grey on the upper side. I’m not yet convinced that my machine had this grey. Assuming it did, my question is whether anyone out there knows this shade of colour? Of course if this isn’t the scheme I’d welcome any theories about the scheme. Thanks in advance.

 

Any ideas? @tomthounaojam @Linescriber @Stilwell @HOUSTON @Basuroy and any other Soviet/Indian experts?

 

Martin

 

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On 2/3/2021 at 9:02 AM, RidgeRunner said:

My intended Su-7 build has a reference photo, in black and white, and clearly shows a demarcation line on the nose between the upper grey(?) and a lighter underside. The only other photos I have found if similar machines, with such a demarcation, and in colour, show a blue grey as the grey on the upper side. I’m not yet convinced that my machine had this grey. Assuming it did, my question is whether anyone out there knows this shade of colour? Of course if this isn’t the scheme I’d welcome any theories about the scheme. Thanks in advance.

 

Any ideas? @tomthounaojam @Linescriber @Stilwell @HOUSTON @Basuroy and any other Soviet/Indian experts?

Having now trawled through all the images I have I think the blue-grey is a red herring. I can only find it on B817 and, I think, it was much later than B896’s service with the TACDE. However, to me it still looks like B896  had a different grey on the undersides compared to the upper (see photo above). In almost all images I can find,  the grey of the  camouflage scheme was extended on the undersides and thus there was no demarcation. Any ideas? 

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Hi Martin

 

This looks like a tricky one. Looks like you've got the same reference photo I have seen of B896, from the Famous Russian Aircraft book (p208). This definitely seems to show a difference in tone between the upper and lower surface greys, whereas other airframes seem to have one grey upper and lower.

 

Not sure how helpful that is, but I think you are correct on B896 in particular

 

Chris

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Thanks Chris @Vultures1. I reckon I will be applying the same grey for the top coat camp as my previous (like those with the same grey over and under) and a lighter grey on the undersides. I’m not sure what the shade will be. It’ll be an element of guess work.

 

 

Martin

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In the absence of any photographic confirmation, in colour, I'm going with:

 

Humbrol enamels:

98 Chocolate

163 Dark Green

165 Medium Sea Grey

 with 64 Light Grey for the undersides.

 

The top three worked well on my earlier build and 64 LIght Grey looks like it could work ;)

 

Now, I wait for a colour photo to be posted by a BMer ;)

 

I am actually intrigued by the photo above of a machine with a white fin and wing tips ;). More interesting, for another build, would be "Tommy", a Su-7BMK with red and white fin and tail planes. :)

 

Martin

 

 

 

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I think you are right Martin, it's going to be a case of eyeballing the colours and there are so many variables in play that it is hard to be definitive.

 

Just a suggestion, but is there a hint more blue to the upper grey than Humbrol 165 Medium Grey?  If you are sticking with the Humbrol range, maybe Humbrol 79 blue grey could be worth a look?  link

 

As I say, just a suggestion 🙂

 

Chris

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4 minutes ago, Vultures1 said:

I think you are right Martin, it's going to be a case of eyeballing the colours and there are so many variables in play that it is hard to be definitive.

 

Just a suggestion, but is there a hint more blue to the upper grey than Humbrol 165 Medium Grey?  If you are sticking with the Humbrol range, maybe Humbrol 79 blue grey could be worth a look?  link

 

As I say, just a suggestion 🙂

 

Chris

Hmmm .... you could be right, Chris. I'll ponder over that a while.... :) Thanks. Is does look dark, though. 

 

Martin

 

 

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