CedB Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 My Wyvern build has given me a small desire to build some more naval subjects so I've chosen the most challenging kit, this thing: I can't remember where I bought it. It may have been 'abroad'. No wait, (quick search of emails) it was from Hannants. Ordered with some pilots, so obviously to fill up the postage. I wish I'd checked the instructions first. Or Scalemates, which tells me this is a rebox of the 1964 Frog kit. Going to be a challenge then as: …the instructions, especially the scheme, are a bit 'basic'. What's the kit like? Looks a bit thrown together eh? At least the transfers will, hopefully, allow me to search for some reference shots: Looks like some work will be required, but at least there is a crew: Short legged so, hopefully, no surgery will be required. One part canopy: I hope it fits. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Wow! First through the turnstile! I'll have a front row seat in the centre, please Ced! Love the Skua, its so ungainly and typical of the muddled thinking in 1930s British aviation! Looking forward to seeing this one progress. Kind regards, Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Great choice Ced, always liked the look of this awkward beast, reminds me of the memsahib. Always fun to knock these ancient Frog kits together, rather wish someone would release a new one at some point, 1/24th would be nice, (if a little unlikely). Look forward to progress. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Awkward subject - I'm in Have you been stocking up in Sky and DSG/EDSG and trying to put it all use? Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Nice little kit from what I remember. Typical FROG, but you know what you are getting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Interesting project Ced I'll join the socially distanced crowd and watch quietly. Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, 2996 Victor said: Love the Skua, its so ungainly and typical of the muddled thinking in 1930s British aviation! Looking forward to seeing this one progress. As a dive bomber was the state of the art for 30s shipboard aerial attack, for once they may not have been completely muddled! Till they added the turret for the Roc anyway. Look forward to seeing the build, 60s and 70s kits can scrub up nicely I find. Cheers Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Blimey, only 1 hr late and still halfway down the page. I've got my beer and peanuts, onwards and upwards! Ian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Kay Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, general melchett said: rather wish someone would release a new one at some point Special Hobby did. I have a seventy-tooth one in the queue. It’ll complement my Roc nicely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, malpaso said: As a dive bomber was the state of the art for 30s shipboard aerial attack, for once they may not have been completely muddled! Till they added the turret for the Roc anyway. Look forward to seeing the build, 60s and 70s kits can scrub up nicely I find. Cheers Will Hi Will, Was it not supposed to combine the roles of fighter and dive-bomber? A combination that sounds like it sits as well together as, say, banana and chips (waits for someone to declare that that's their favourite meal!). Although to be fair, Skuas of 803 NAS shot down a Dornier Do.18 for the first confirmed kill of the war by a British aircraft. As for the Roc: least said, soonest mended! Kind regards, Mark 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 In for the fun Ced Should you get in trouble with the green house I may just be able to help out If someone doesnt take at least one of them off my hands I may need to start growing 1/72 scale orchids in there 2 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 To be fair, the RN were always short of space so aircraft had to be multi-role, and the fighter part of the description was more meant as the long-range escort fighter to go with the strike force. They were not so bothered about fleet defence as this could safely be left to their superb gunnery. Fighters were meant to be tucked into the hangar in the event of attack. In truth, the Luftwaffe were rather impressed by the RN's AA fire in the Norway campaign, but the RN was rather more disillusioned by it. The problem with the Skua was not that it was up to the 1930s but that it was delivered late, and only existed in small numbers. A couple of bad missions (as against the Scharnhorst) and normal wartime wear and tear meant that not enough were left. Plus it would have benefitted from the ability to carry a larger bomb. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Ah yes the British answer to the Stuka. Dive bombers were all the rage in the thirties, the requirement almost finished off the Ju88 and severely hobbled the Heinkel 177. Actually I always thought the foxed undercarriage on the Stuka was a throwback, but in actuality it was because of concerns that the cutouts for a retractable undercarriage would cause structural integrity issues in a dive. ‘Tis a bit on the ugly side, but will watch with interest. Edited January 25, 2021 by Marklo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandie Dinmont Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Hi Ced, I look forward to seeing you turn this sow’s ear into one of your customary silk purses! Craig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Dive bombers were also highly successful in the 40s - the Ju.88 being actually a pretty useful example, if generally being busy enough in other roles. Only the RAF were not too impressed, but then anything not long range strategic tended to be a bit beneath their notice. And close support of the Army was definitely ruled out, not least because of the heavy losses in 1918. Given the problems of the He.177, I treat comments about the effect of dive-bombing requirements on it with some salt. It was never stressed to the requirements for a dive bomber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Graham Boak said: Given the problems of the He.177, I treat comments about the effect of dive-bombing requirements on it with some salt. It was never stressed to the requirements for a dive bomber. Ok I’ll give you that. The HE177 had many problems including the double engines ( even RR gave up on the Vulture) But arguably the dive bombing requirements delayed the Ju88. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Kay Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 47 minutes ago, Marklo said: ‘Tis a bit on the ugly side, but will watch with interest. It's a Blackburn aircraft. Ugly is the standard. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweener Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Do you plan to fix the shaping of the wings? From what I recall, they are about 10-15% short in cord, but otherwise the kit seems accurate. I'll be watching in either case, as I plan to build one of these as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ced, if you wondering what you started, try this site for all the bully, it has even got info for the wings as mentioned above by @Tweener. Steve. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just wanted to get on page one!!!! *pant, pant. 🤪 I didn’t know the Wyvern was finished. Looks like I have some reading tonight. ❤️ Johnny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ooh! I'll be watching this space for further developments, Ced. I've got two eastern Europe bagged repops in the stash. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Beema Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I like the Skua, interesting aircraft and a lot of ‘Firsts’ for the FAA. Have one (1/48 SH in the cabinet and one on the bench).. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Heather Kay said: Special Hobby did. I have a seventy-tooth one in the queue. It’ll complement my Roc nicely. I thought mine went together well. Lots of nice resin and PE...not my best work, but hey - I was younger. Cheers, Bill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Quack Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Sub-lieutenants Mutt'n'Jeff clutching grimly to their seats, each hoping upon hope that the OTHER one is actually flying the plane. Sorry, I promise to behave from now on....... Q 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Wings folded, naturally? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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