Tbolt Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, ABeck said: slotted stabilators ?? wish there was a photo with higher resolution They are good enough resolution to see the difference - 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABeck Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 issjagut, meinbester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayabusa Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Great engineering. Can't see any flaw still no red circles anyone. Must be unbildable 😉 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 With this part breakdown, they can go from F-4B to F-4G,of course they won't, but they can. But and a big but, two biggest EU Tamiya importers/distributors cite price very close to 100 euros, we had that conversation earlier, if it really comes close to that number , simply- way too expensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayabusa Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 51 minutes ago, Hayabusa said: Great engineering. Can't see any flaw still no red circles anyone. Must be unbuildable 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimitar F1 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Thomas V. said: With this part breakdown, they can go from F-4B to F-4G,of course they won't, but they can. But and a big but, two biggest EU Tamiya importers/distributors cite price very close to 100 euros, we had that conversation earlier, if it really comes close to that number , simply- way too expensive. They must feel that they can charge that - they are a business after all. The market must be able to support. While we are still waiting for the F-16D, FAA Corsair etc they have really compromised the engineering to give them options for more versions on this more than on others. Edited March 9, 2021 by Scimitar F1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalal Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 8 hours ago, misterblank said: Oh well looks like I’ll have to buy one. Not really my scale but too beautiful to ignore! Best regards...Duncan My thoughts too. Too beautiful to ignore. However, I m not sure if the kit will have just missiles. As Tamiya kits usually have good out of box weapons options. Also not clear which markings it will have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenko Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, stalal said: I m not sure if the kit will have just missiles. As Tamiya kits usually have good out of box weapons options. Also not clear which markings it will have. On the missile sprue there is a big gap to the left. My guess will be for bombs etc. on another version. Does this sound about right. ?? Put this version out. See how it sells. then 18 months down the line bring out version 2 (E, F, FJ. Etc.) May be they are learning from other manufacturers in getting the most out of a set of moulds. Tamiya = pleasure..... (modelling wise that is ) Yes you can tell I do like them.. Dick Edited March 9, 2021 by jenko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IT_Man Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 It's a surprise that they've not looked at the F-4 EJ with the retirement of the last ones in JASDF. Plenty of interesting schemes to choose from too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin ritchie Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 What a perfect example of modern tool making , a beautiful kit , but as an unrepentant builder of large scale model , I can't help wishing that this model was 32nd , , ah well C'est La Vie ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Thomas V. said: With this part breakdown, they can go from F-4B to F-4G,of course they won't, but they can. But and a big but, two biggest EU Tamiya importers/distributors cite price very close to 100 euros, we had that conversation earlier, if it really comes close to that number , simply- way too expensive. It's worth the price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) Did anyone else notice that there are AIM-9L Sidewinders on the missile sprues? I've just checked and I believe that the sprue with the missiles is from the 1/48 F-14A/D kit without the AIM-54 Phoenix parts. Edited March 9, 2021 by Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, colin ritchie said: What a perfect example of modern tool making , a beautiful kit , but as an unrepentant builder of large scale model , I can't help wishing that this model was 32nd , , ah well C'est La Vie ... Given that I tend to favor 1/32 scale now that I'm older, I have to agree with you. We probably won't see it, but it's nice to dream about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, Stephen said: It's worth the price. As they say, everyone is entitled to its own opinion, I would beg to differ, there is no objective reason for such price ( if true ),even if Tamiya used slide moulding tech of 2021 ( they did not ), it would still be excessive, not only for what you get( size and quality ) but also compared to ZM and Academy, judging from pics seen today again there is no such quality gap between mentioned and Tamiya, we will see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticguy Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 hours ago, jenko said: On the missile sprue there is a big gap to the left. My guess will be for bombs etc. on another version. Does this sound about right. ?? Put this version out. See how it sells. then 18 months down the line bring out version 2 (E, F, FJ. Etc.) May be they are learning from other manufacturers in getting the most out of a set of moulds. Tamiya = pleasure..... (modelling wise that is ) Yes you can tell I do like them.. Dick Nope. See here: You can see the whole sprue with Sparrows and Sidewinders. The hidden part of the sprue is just other Sparrows (maybe other versions). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalal Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, Thomas V. said: As they say, everyone is entitled to its own opinion, I would beg to differ, there is no objective reason for such price ( if true ),even if Tamiya used slide moulding tech of 2021 ( they did not ), it would still be excessive, not only for what you get( size and quality ) but also compared to ZM and Academy, judging from pics seen today again there is no such quality gap between mentioned and Tamiya, we will see... I m currently building Academy F-4. And I m already missing Tamiya. Academy is a good kit. Its between Hasegawa and ZM in current market. By doubling the price to get ZM kit, you dont really add any value to what Academy kit offers. However, Academy has some engineering challenges. Like Tamiya, its details are basic but what I miss is the perfect shape and quality of fit that Tamiya offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, plasticguy said: Nope. See here: You can see the whole sprue with Sparrows and Sidewinders. The hidden part of the sprue is just other Sparrows (maybe other versions). It is a bit disappointing that on a £100 kit you have to source your own air to ground weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad-4N Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I must have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 15 hours ago, Homebee said: Sprues Source: https://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/61121/index.html V.P. Wow! Looks like a whole load of interesting engineering there that I can’t fathom as yet. Looking forward to seeing what the instructions show. Also glad they included one of my favourite schemes - VF51 CAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 19 hours ago, Hayabusa said: Great engineering. Can't see any flaw still no red circles anyone. Must be unbildable 😉 Here you go 😄 - ( I think he's wrong by the way ) https://m.facebook.com/groups/tamiyamodelmagazine/permalink/10158704443479821/?anchor_composer=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inshala Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Looks exciting, speed brakes as well which is good to see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 It's a really curious engineering setup that I can't quite fathom. I see shades of their approach to their F-14 in the wing stubs but the rest of it seems to share similarities with the way Bandai engineered their Star Wars kits - lots of slots and tabs to make joins and alignment that much better. I'm a bit puzzled by the approach to the fuselage - why have one side split but the other side whole? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXANTOMCAT Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 That’s a fair point I hadn’t noticed that- it is a bit odd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJL Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The fuselage breakdown could be for future releases that do not have the IFR fitted there eg the C/D variants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenko Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Nocoolname said: I'm a bit puzzled by the approach to the fuselage - why have one side split but the other side whole? I asked the same question a little time back and this was the reply I got on page 8 Hi, Yes, I noticed that too. I guess that they plan to make an Air Force version that does not have the refueling probe on the starboard side. That is probably another reason (apart from avoiding a seam in the middle) why the top of the spine is a separate part. They can then have a separate top of the spine part with the Air Force refueling receptacle. Looks great! Cheers, Stefan. HTH Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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