JWM Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 I am searching in my resources for decals and I have found a bit strange proportions of roundels on Lerwick. Please have a look at this photo. The visible are fuselage's and a bit worse a top of wing's roundels. The central red is much wider then in regular pre-war roundels A. In A the diameter of central red circle is equal to the difference in radii of white borders (so the width of white), similar is with blue. As a result the radii of circles are: 0.5,1.5,2.5. Here the proportion is closer to 1,2,3 - anyway it looks more like a post war roundels of type D I think... It is like on @tonyot B17 here So I am searching for a post war roundels in my drawer... Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-42 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Wonderful subject. I had an acquaintance who has since passed on, who served in a maintenance unit of some sort in Coastal Command. Being Scottish, he corrected my ignorant colonial pronunciation of Lerwick. He told me he was supposed to go on an air test on a Lerwick once but his bicycle had a flat and he was late, so another took his place. He arrived in time to watch it takeoff. It never came back. Fortunes of war. Looking forward to the finish line. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, JWM said: I am searching in my resources for decals and I have found a bit strange proportions of roundels on Lerwick. Please have a look at this photo. The visible are fuselage's and a bit worse a top of wing's roundels. The central red is much wider then in regular pre-war roundels A. In A the diameter of central red circle is equal to the difference in radii of white borders (so the width of white), similar is with blue. As a result the radii of circles are: 0.5,1.5,2.5. Here the proportion is closer to 1,2,3 - anyway it looks more like a post war roundels of type D I think... It is like on @tonyot B17 here So I am searching for a post war roundels in my drawer... Regards J-W It did happen, possibly a misinterpretation of the wording. Modeldecal even provided large red centres on one of their sheets but, I think, only for smaller sizes - I used some on my all black Spitfire V "JU.H" IIRC. I'm afraid I can't point you to a source and I can't immediately find the date when the brighter pre-war colours changed to the darker red and blue - something that would kill the use of post war roundels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-42 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I started using a Thinnerline circle cutter for my 1/32 WWI kits because I don’t get along with large decals. It will also cut very small circles and has proven useful for wheel masks as well. A little bit more work than a decal, but you will get that “painted on” look.🙂 http://www.hyperscale.com/2017/reviews/tools/thinnerlinecirclecutterreviewbg_1.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 Hi, I came to decals today. I put most of them but not the serial, which I left for tomorrow. I painted the marks of walk in areas on wings and cover some parts with mat varnish. After varnish I put the Humbrol Clearfix into portholes, on photos it is still wet. I am trying to avoid flash doing photos but that one is too dark So it is with flash: The 48" tall codes I took from Italeri Sunderland. F was there already, W I did from two A, Q I did from G and bits from A. I enlarged red central dot on fuselage but still it is too regular, not a bit odd as is seen on photos... BYW - I think that in most cases the pre-war A roundels were not repainted into wartime (darker) A1 - because in between it should be B type at least four positions from top. Bottom side: The rear part of fuselage is not covered with mat varinsh but has diluted leyer of gloss to make a good stick with decals/stickers/transfers... And small bits still to add: beach gear and turrets (not finished yet) To be continued Regards Jerzy-Wojtek 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 P.S> Again it happend to me, that sending post do not returns thread to the top... Will see if this PS will help for this... J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 It’s looking great. The composite canopy has come up really well too. FWIW when I was building a couple a while back, I noticed that early Miles Masters had strange roundel proportions too. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Wow this is looking superb J-W,.... I love how you`ve reproduced the 4 colour shadow shaded TSS too,.... it looks just right. Re the roundels,.... some pre war aircraft did have the large red centre disc,...... the AW Siskin springs to mind for a start,...... nd some Stranraer flying boats had them too. Keep up the good work mate, Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 As I've said before, you have done a wonderful job and it is looking fabulous. Do you have any idea what you are going to do next? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Beard said: Do you have any idea what you are going to do next? Thank you! I have to finish two Potezes 63: 631 and 63.11, I am doing them in background together with Lerwick, started befere it. So nothing special. But the next oddity is a vacu Shcherbakov ShCh-2 (Broplan) within a non-injected GB. The next conversion I am thinking about is Amiot 370 from Mach 2 Amiot 351 kit together with non-converted 351. Further plans for this year are about Soviet and Italian, mostly. But we will see.... 6 hours ago, tonyot said: Wow this is looking superb J-W,.... I love how you`ve reproduced the 4 colour shadow shaded TSS too,.... it looks just right. Re the roundels,.... some pre war aircraft did have the large red centre disc,...... the AW Siskin springs to mind for a start,...... nd some Stranraer flying boats had them too. Keep up the good work mate, Tony 7 hours ago, AdrianMF said: It’s looking great. The composite canopy has come up really well too. FWIW when I was building a couple a while back, I noticed that early Miles Masters had strange roundel proportions too. Regards, Adrian Adrian and Tony - I appreciate, many thanks! Regards J-W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 ON beach gear with nose and dorsal turrets Regards J-W 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 It is almost finished. I glued all missed so far elements (pitch regulation elements in prop hubs, aerials, Piot, rear turret) made some painting correction etc. I will add some exploitation dirt and chipping ... So the Larwick for today evening looks like that: Close to finish... ! Regards J-W 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 Finished! I am going to post on RFI Thank you for watching, commenting, inspiring and helping! Regards J-W 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 Here is RFI thread: regards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Fantastic job Jerzy. These were based where live in Oban, they were not very successful or liked by the crews who flew them. They were nicknamed the "flying pig", bulky and underpowered. Two were involved with incidents, one hit rocks near the Isle of Lismore lighthouse with the loss of its 5 crew whilst the other overturned and sank while taxiing to its mooring in Ardentrive Bay on the Isle of Kerrera. Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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