Old pro Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 With Revell having released their tiny T 55 with KMT 6 and EMT 5, whilst a lot is known about the KMT, anyone know anything about the EMT 5? I presume it is the block mounted to the upper glacis, as there are plenty of pictures of the KMT 6 fitted without the block, but I have seen the block mounted to T 55,62 and T 72s however I can find no reference to the EMT 5, the EMT 7 yes , so my question is is the block part of the EMT 5 or something else? Does anyone have any info on it? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Is EMT-5 either the NVA designation for the KMT-6, or the unified German designation for it when absorbed into the Bundesheer? Noting the NVA markings on the box art. IIRC both East and unified Germany gave their own designations to Russian equipment. I can't get anything on an EMT-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapsell Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 KMT-6 is definitely the mine rake designation. I wonder if the the EMT-5 is the clear lane marker that you get for the back of the vehicle? Given that the two markings options are 1970 and 1985, I doubt the box on the glacis is any form of IED disrupter - more likely just additional armour Revell Instruction Sheet John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 The EMT-5 is different from the KMT-5/6. The EMT-5 is a mine clearing system for magnet pistol systems. Both systems, EMT-5 and KMT-5/6 were used together. modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 The EMT-5 is different from the KMT-5/6. The EMT-5 is a mine clearing system for magnet pistol systems. Both systems, EMT-5 and KMT-5/6 were used together. modelldoc Just now, modelldoc said: sorry doublepost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I've never come across the EMT-5 and searches didn't find anything on it. Do you have any more info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Here is an offer from ebay Germany - https://www.ebay.de/itm/NVA-VORSCHRIFT-A-052-1-308-MINENRAUMGERAT-EMT-5-PANZER-T55-/113924859330 Here you find the total numbers, on page 25 /26: https://dip21.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/12/020/1202026.pdf This is the successor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMT-7 More about the KMT-5 is here: http://panzerregiment4.de/?p=106 modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old pro Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 17 hours ago, modelldoc said: The EMT-5 is different from the KMT-5/6. The EMT-5 is a mine clearing system for magnet pistol systems. Both systems, EMT-5 and KMT-5/6 were used together. modelldoc 57 minutes ago, modelldoc said: Here is an offer from ebay Germany - https://www.ebay.de/itm/NVA-VORSCHRIFT-A-052-1-308-MINENRAUMGERAT-EMT-5-PANZER-T55-/113924859330 Here you find the total numbers, on page 25 /26: https://dip21.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/12/020/1202026.pdf This is the successor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMT-7 More about the KMT-5 is here: http://panzerregiment4.de/?p=106 modelldoc Odd that the KMT 6 and EMT 5 both come under Engineer equipment but that the KMT 6 and EMT 7 are under the heading “laying and clearing of obstacles “ whereas the EMT 5 comes in a separate heading of “Aufklärung “ or reconnaissance ( not an exact translation but close. Revell give the option of a glacis with or without the box but no indication as to why and what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old pro Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Das Abteilung said: I've never come across the EMT-5 and searches didn't find anything on it. Do you have any more info? Unfortunately no, searches bring up nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 here is a German website, about Russian mine clearing systems. In the chapter for the BMR-3 there is a point with the EMR: " Sie verfügt nun mit dem EMT über ein zusätzliches elektro-magnetisches Minenräumgerät." That means: "electro-magnetic mine clearance device" https://www.pioniertechnik.de/bmr3.htm modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old pro Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 hours ago, modelldoc said: here is a German website, about Russian mine clearing systems. In the chapter for the BMR-3 there is a point with the EMR: " Sie verfügt nun mit dem EMT über ein zusätzliches elektro-magnetisches Minenräumgerät." That means: "electro-magnetic mine clearance device" https://www.pioniertechnik.de/bmr3.htm modelldoc This is where the confusion comes in, the BMR 3 is fitted with the EMT 7 part of which are the cylinders mounted above the KMT 7 mine rollers, you would have thought that EMT 5 would be in a similar vein? However I have come to the conclusion that the Revell kit is referring to the lane marker located at the rear as John Tapsall suggested. The glacis mounted block is???? Most pictures of NVA tanks show it not fitted, there are pictures of Finnish T 72M1s with KMT 6 with the block fitted and lights repositioned, also have pictures of a museum T 72 possibly ex NVA with the same arrangement, but a lack of any information other than it existed leaves me scratching my head. thanks to you all anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Sorry, I'm not the expert for these parts, but I understand, that both systems are used together on the tank. modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old pro Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just for information, seems like Revell have mislabelled the T 55 kit the box is part of the EMT 7 electric countermeasures http://www.rwd-mb3.de/ftechnik/pages/emt7.htm?fbclid=IwAR0qMn_XuFckL-GxQkQrQQqQ6TFiY5tPJbxjQRkA3lhcVoHw34rY4Bhouo4 still no idea what an EMT 5 is though, even though the NVA had 109 of them, but I am guessing something different, as they come in the same category as mine detectors as opposed to clearing devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Old pro said: Just for information, seems like Revell have mislabelled the T 55 kit the box is part of the EMT 7 electric countermeasures http://www.rwd-mb3.de/ftechnik/pages/emt7.htm?fbclid=IwAR0qMn_XuFckL-GxQkQrQQqQ6TFiY5tPJbxjQRkA3lhcVoHw34rY4Bhouo4 still no idea what an EMT 5 is though, even though the NVA had 109 of them, but I am guessing something different, as they come in the same category as mine detectors as opposed to clearing devices. 2 hours ago, Old pro said: Very interesting link, but the description for the EMT 7 says, for T-72. So I think, the EMT 5 is the predecessor, used on the T-55. modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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