Tokyo Raider Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hi Brits... Bob here from USA. I am wanting to build a Mig3 next as my first model of a Russian plane! I want to do 'For the Motherland' classic winter white Mig3 from the famous photo on delivery Feb 1942... My Trumpeter kit calls out GERMAN RLM02 primer color for the interior color... I was suprised by this. I am just learning about the russian colors, and have some model air colors for other russian plane kits... they call out A14 Steel grey for interior color. What is the CORRECT interior color to use on a late Mig3? Thanks for your help. I am in urgent need of help, trying to build on a day off today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Everything you need to know about VVS colours and the MiG 3 in particular http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/mig3/mig3.html The cockpit area would be a mixture of A-14 (Grey) for details and a light blue colour for the cockpit walls, the rear of the fuselage would be bare wood. I built the Trumpeter 1/32 MiG 3 a long time ago (2015) with Massimo's help with the colours, the build is here. Edit, From Massimo's site Hope this helps Cheers Dennis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
politicni komisar Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?board=41.0 http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/mig3/mig3.html http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/colors.html P.k 😎 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Raider Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 Awesome! Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Lumppio Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hello! Note the K-SIM fuselage is missing the fuselage truss structure which connected engine frame and rear fuselage. I do not know what colour it was painted. I have a guess, but hope someone (Massimo?) has certain info. Cheers, Kari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar57 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Agree with all above. If its the 1:48 kit, be warned about the fit of the panels around the wing intakes and upper cowl is not the best and will require lots of trial and error but in the end works out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Raider Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 hours ago, fubar57 said: Agree with all above. If its the 1:48 kit, be warned about the fit of the panels around the wing intakes and upper cowl is not the best and will require lots of trial and error but in the end works out Yes, its the Trumpter 1/48 Mig3. I got aftermarket prop and spinner, aftermarket exhausts and aftermarket belly radiator... Do you guys think the old ICM Mig3 kit is better than Trumpeter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar57 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Haven't built the ICM kit but I've built two Trumpeter ones and aside from the above mentioned issues, enjoyed them. One minor issue that also cropped up was the placement of the radio deck in the instructions. In the instructions it looks like the front of the deck is attached to the bulkhead but in fact the front mounts on two small tabs on the fuselage sides Edited January 18, 2021 by fubar57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Raider Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 Wow Fubar... thanks alot! I will have a go at this Trumpeter mig3. Thanks for the tip on the radio deck... I cant wait to get started on this Mig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawinder Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I built Trumpeter's early version MiG-3 some years ago. Aside from IMHO the need to modify the exhaust area (closer to the late version as engineered) and to fill/smooth the grossly exaggerated fabric control surfaces, the radio mast is literally half sized; I replaced it with a part from the ICM kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar57 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I totally forgot about the exhaust area and agree with Seawinder. What I did was remove the area with a fine saw... And then file and sand to the approximate shape. Glued it on and filled in the gaps. This is how it looked and where I ended up. Not perfect but better ....and finished. Sorry for the thread hijacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Raider Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 Ok... you convinced me to set aside the Mig3. I will start an La5fn instead. I just am not in the mood to build a massive reconstruction of a kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Raider Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Hey Fubar... I see now what you tried to change, that hood over the first exhaust stack. It still looks thick and is too short from what photos I have seen on late Mig3's. I think i can manage fixing that hood, and its important to do as i am trying to make the red arrow decal fit around it. I will try and do this Mig3 kit... reshaping that hood. Your pictures are very valuable and thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Raider Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 I have studied the excellent resources and have the colors for cockpit understood. I still have an issue with cockpit floor. I can use the RLM02 for the green gray primer for the floor, called ALG-5 primer. However I have seen photos where the seat and floor are a dark green resembling fs34102. Which do you think would be better? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar57 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Ahhh, you're building the late version MiG-3 with the longer exhaust shroud. The one above is the early version with the shorter exhaust shroud and yes it is still a bit on the thick side. I also built the late version and painted the seat and floor Tamiya XF-58 Olive Green. I painted the side-walls Gunze Sangyo H67-RLM65. The boxes were painted dark green though they could also be black, I got this from Massimo's very fine site Edited January 19, 2021 by fubar57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Tessitori Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Hi, this page depicts well the differences in the cowling and exhaust stacks between early and late MiG-3 http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/mig3/latemig-3.html There should be also some visible difference in the shape of the division line between horizontal stabilizers and elevators, but it's not clear if the outer shape of the horizontal tail surfaces changed. Regards Massimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Raider Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 12 hours ago, fubar57 said: Ahhh, you're building the late version MiG-3 with the longer exhaust shroud. The one above is the early version with the shorter exhaust shroud and yes it is still a bit on the thick side. I also built the late version and painted the seat and floor Tamiya XF-58 Olive Green. I painted the side-walls Gunze Sangyo H67-RLM65. The boxes were painted dark green though they could also be black, I got this from Massimo's very fine site That looks great... i will do this... what color is the radio deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar57 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I honestly don't remember. I just went down and looked at it but under the clear parts it just looks dark so it could be dark green or XF-69 Nato Black. I tried enlarging the best photo I had of the area but no luck. Maybe you can get a better guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Raider Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 Ok... thanks Fubar... kinda looks greenish... but appears darker than your cockpit floor... Thanks very much for your help! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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