occa Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 finally it is also clear that the Academy kit doesn't depict that the fuselage broadens towards the engine cowling ... oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, 85sqn said: Second from the bottom on the right. Thanks, missed that one 😳, scanning quickly for the FAA acronym 😃 Unfortunately, I do not trust the veracity of this scheme. From what I have found, EZ316 (built as AT-6D-NT 42-84460) was really an Mk. III bird and I could not find any photographic evidence from WWII (only from 1953, when the scheme was already "trainer silver": https://www.aviationphotocompany.com/p390954246/h5ca0364e#h5ca0364e) Edited May 11, 2021 by ptarmigan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Ok, so not only EZ316 is Harvard III (and not Harvard II as claimed), but according to the "Fleet Air Arm Aircraft" book (by R. Sturtivant) it has arrived to AAU Martin Hearn, Hooton Park on 10.5.1944. Definitely not "Royal Navy, 1943". Considering this, the colour scheme may be completely bogus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilwell Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 22 hours ago, ptarmigan said: Definitely not "Royal Navy, 1943". At least the decal sheet description does not have as many inaccuracies as the write up that accompanies the artwork on Wings Palette: http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/80/pics/9_5.jpg >Harvard Mk.IIa "Hatters Castle" >Unit: 1832 NAS, FAA >Serial: 203/JA (EZ316) >This aircraft (NA-81 supplied under Lease-Lend) was used from 1942 onwards as an advanced trainer by the Royal Navy. It is shown in post-war (about 1958) markings, still with wartime insignia, serving at Stretton. >Artist: unknown >Source: "Great Aircraft of the World", Book Editor: Len Cacutt Publishers: Marshall Cavendish Books Ltd. 58 Old Compton Street, London W1V 5PA" “JA” was the station code for HMS Blackcap / RNAS Stretton in the late 40s, before it changed to “ST”. 1832 Sqn RNVR was based at Culham, but 1831 Sqn RNVR was based at Stretton from 1947; the wiki says it was equipped with Seafire 15s and 17s, and one Harvard. This may be that one Harvard, but in 1948 rather than 1958. This is backed up by Ray Sturtivant’s FAA Fixed Wing Aircraft since 1946 book, which has it arriving a Stretton on 20 Aug 1947, serving as “203” and “201”, before going to Donibristle for overhaul on 5 September 1949. No mention of the “Hatters Castle” name, though. The book then says EZ316 then spent time with 799 Sqn at Yeovilton before going to the RNAS Gosport station flight on 18 June 1951. It doesn't have any photos of EZ316, unfortunately. There is a photo of a Harvard with 1831 Sqn, but that is KF500, again coded as “203”, in 1951, with “ST” station code and I would guess High Speed Silver with yellow training bands scheme. While the artwork above has been repeated numerous times - including green / grey rather than green / earth upper surfaces: http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/northamerican_t6/texan_027.html I haven’t been able to find any photographic evidence. Unfortunately, while EZ316 is mentioned on some other threads on Britmodeller: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234957947-royal-navy-havards/ https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234970923-fleet-air-arm-harvards-–-variant-analysis-observations-and-queries/ They also don’t help with evidence. Jonathan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Heads up for anyone that's interested. Just had a reply from Zdeněk at Peewit. There is a canopy and separate camouflage mask set being produced for the Special Hobby Harvard. Should be with Hannants in a few weeks. Here's the message I got; Hi Steve, thank you for your interest about Peewit masks. I just have masks for Special Hobby Harvard prepared. If all goes well I want offer them to the Hannants during next week. The time from ordering by Hannants, production, sending, and now also customs procedure last about 5 weeks. I am also preparing paper camouflage masks for this kit for both two camouflaged variants included in this box. Best regards Zdeněk Čejka Phew! That's going to save a lot of time cutting up Tamiya tape! Many thanks to Zdeněk at Peewit! Steve 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickpeck Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I was thinking of using the kit decals FE 479 in India and wondering if the aircraft is yellow or trainer yellow. Thanks Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 The RAF only had one yellow. It was called Yellow. Trainer yellow is just an enthusiast/modellers' term for the same thing, used before the true names were well published. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Graham Boak said: The RAF only had one yellow. It was called Yellow. Weren't the Gnats of the Yellowjackets a different shade (Lemon Yellow)? Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Indeed they were. Not used however on Harvards in WW2. I'm certain that other hues of yellow have been used RAF aircraft at times, but not taken from an officially prescribed list. It is however possible (even likely), I've never seen it discussed, that US-built and delivered Harvards used a US paint manufacturer's approved equivalent, and that the Lend-Lease ones used another US-approved paint, though the USN's yellow was very close, at least in layman's terms. At this time the USAAC was not painting its advanced trainers in their own yellow, which was indeed a lemon-yellow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 @Julien Thanks for the review! Got five of these in the stash now and can't wait to get cracking on them. Further to my previous post, just had another reply from Zdeněk at Peewit. Now available to pre-order from Hannants, three Peewit sets for the SH Harvard. Big thanks to Zdeněk for taking the time to keep me posted on my original enquiry. Great customer service from Peewit. Hi Steve, you may have seen it at Hannants, but ... https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PEE72265?result-token=AtLtm https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PEE77003?result-token=AtLtm https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PEE75010?result-token=LfRVB Best regards Zdeněk 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, fightersweep said: @Julien Thanks for the review! Got five of these in the stash now and can't wait to get cracking on them. Further to my previous post, just had another reply from Zdeněk at Peewit. Now available to pre-order from Hannants, three Peewit sets for the SH Harvard. Big thanks to Zdeněk for taking the time to keep me posted on my original enquiry. Great customer service from Peewit. Hi Steve, you may have seen it at Hannants, but ... https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PEE72265?result-token=AtLtm https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PEE77003?result-token=AtLtm https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PEE75010?result-token=LfRVB Best regards Zdeněk The masks look very good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Julien said: The masks look very good As a rule, I usually cut up and make my own masks from Tamiya tape, but for a Harvard, these should be a God send! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, fightersweep said: As a rule, I usually cut up and make my own masks from Tamiya tape, but for a Harvard, these should be a God send! Yes I normally do the same, but for the likes of the Harvard and a TBM I recently did masks help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) Special Hobby masks - ref. 100-M72024 - Pre-cut painting masks for Special Hobby AT-6 Texan/Harvard Mk.II/IIA/IIB. Source: https://www.specialhobby.info/2021/06/news-from-special-hobby-062021.html And another in box review: https://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-72-harvard-mk-ii-iia-iib-special-hobby/ V.P. Edited July 2, 2021 by Homebee 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Ooo! Spoilt for choice on canopy masks now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) Expected in 2022 - ref. SH72450 - North American AT-6C/D & SNJ-3/3C Texan Source: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SH72450 V.P. Edited August 3, 2022 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Box art and markings https://www.specialhobby.net/2022/08/sh72450-at-6cd-snj-33c-texan-training.html 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) New boxing announced - ref. SH72450 - North American AT-6C/D & SNJ-3/3C Texan - Training to Win Source: https://www.specialhobby.net/2022/08/sh72450-at-6cd-snj-33c-texan-training.html V.P. Edited August 2, 2022 by Homebee 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Some nice colourful options there! Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Scheduled for and August release according to their August newsletter. https://www.specialhobby.net/2022/08/novinky-ze-special-hobby-082022.html Quote "I believe there will also be interest in our August releases SH72450 AT-6C/D & SNJ-3/3C Texan 'Training to Win' 1/72 accessories loaded..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 18, 2022 Author Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Released - ref. SH72450 - North American AT-6C/D & SNJ-3/3C Texan - Training to Win https://www.specialhobby.eu/vlastni-produkce-1/special-hobby/at-6c-d-snj-3-3c-texan-training-to-win-1-72.html Source: https://www.specialhobby.net/2022/08/sh72450-at-6cd-snj-33c-texan-training_23.html V.P. Edited August 24, 2022 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve N Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Of course it comes with an option for an arrestor hook equipped SNJ-5 used for carrier qualifications on the USS Wolverine, after I did the mods from scratch and printed my own decals back in 2005! And of course I'll be picking one up. I recently grabbed two of the Harvard sets at the IPMS USA Nationals in Omaha. SN 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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