Ed Darter 62 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Hi, Does anyone know whether the Monogram offering from the mid 80s is the same one as from the late 70s? Albeit with possibly different payload. I'm assuming it is but thought I would check you guys as you are far more knowledgeable than me! Thanks Ed Link to post Share on other sites
Tentacles 115 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Try looking for it on scalemates.com Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Darter 62 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 OK, thanks, will do Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Mc 2,493 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I doubt very much that any model manufacturers will be issuing new models of the Space Shuttle. As far as I'm aware, when they were still separate companies, both Revell and Monogram issued their own 1/72 models of the Shuttle. The two companies merged quite a while ago so whenever Revell issues a 1/72 Shuttle, it's never really clear which one of the two different toolings they are using. Link to post Share on other sites
GordonD 3,319 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 FWIW Revell's Orbiter had full cabin detail (and a removable roof so you could see it) but the payload door hinges were non-scale. It may also have had the tile detail inscribed but I never built one so can't be sure if that's correct. Monogram's didn't have the cabin detail but the door hinges were accurate (and quite fragile) so you paid your money and took your choice. Of course Monogram also issued the full stack as well as the standalone Orbiter. Bottom line: if the box mentions cabin detail then it must be the original Revell one. Link to post Share on other sites
John_W 2,693 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I recall one of them had moulded tile detail, but can't remember which. Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Darter 62 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 I had the Monogram challenger back in the late 70s early 80s and as I was quite young made a right mess of it. I do remember the cargo bay hinges being particularly fragile though so that ties up nicely with above. I'm looking at trying to get another one to make a better job of it but they seem to be so expensive on the 2nd hand market Link to post Share on other sites
CT7567 382 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ed Darter said: I had the Monogram challenger back in the late 70s early 80s and as I was quite young made a right mess of it. I do remember the cargo bay hinges being particularly fragile though so that ties up nicely with above. I'm looking at trying to get another one to make a better job of it but they seem to be so expensive on the 2nd hand market Revell has announced a reissue 1/72 orbiter scheduled for March 2021. It will most likely be the Revell rather than the Monogram tooling, but both kits are of comparable quality & accuracy. If you have your heart set on the Monogram, the re-release should bring secondary market prices for both kits down a bit. Edited January 9 by CT7567 Link to post Share on other sites
Flintstone 14 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I have the Monogram full stack kit and the shuttle in that does have a cockpit (top deck only), but does not have any tile surface detail on the underside. Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Darter 62 Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 Ew the reissue sounds interesting! Might explain why there are quite a few on ebay at the moment (albeit at fairly silly money for most). Not sure whether to hang on or try and grab one now. Would love a full stack one but they are out of my price range. Will investigate the hinge thing as there seem to be more revell ones than monogram, don't want the doors to open so if the revell one can be made to look more scale regarding hinges that's a definite consideration. Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Mc 2,493 Posted Sunday at 10:02 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:02 AM Tile detail is the bugbear of all Orbiter models. I have the Revell 1/72 Orbiter from a fairly recent boxing (10 years old) and it definitely shows (inaccurate) engraved tile details. Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Darter 62 Posted Monday at 10:12 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 10:12 PM Have had a look at a review video of the Revel one on YouTube and it has the tile details as raised lines, which raises concerns for me as to how I would deal with getting rid of glue seams without damaging that detailing. I think the Monogram one would be the better bet but as stated earlier in the thread it's likely to be the Revel tooling that's rereleased. Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Mc 2,493 Posted Tuesday at 08:53 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:53 AM I think my plan would be to completely sand off the raised lines (as they are inaccurate anyway) and either use specific tile decals or have a go at painting the tile detail. Link to post Share on other sites
johndon 265 Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM For an excellent set of videos covering the Monogram model have a look here: John 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Darter 62 Posted Wednesday at 09:38 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 09:38 PM Yeah have watched those videos on the Monogram build. The decals do look good. Never realised the underside was so grey! I like how he replicates the thermal blankets as well. Good point about scrubbing the raised detail on the Revel one, undoubtedly quicker than trying to keep it all intact while removing seams. Can't find any further details on the Revell re-release for this March though, is it definite? Link to post Share on other sites
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