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Thanks Giorgio, Alistair, Mark, Simon, Ben and Tony :) 

 

16 hours ago, perdu said:

Jommetry

Ah, I assume that's some form of Brummie saucery [sic] :D

I still don't see how a decal stripe would go straight over a wobbly fuselage…

No, wait…

Use Mark's idea of making a template, scan it into Silhouette studio and print a wobbly decal.

Is that the idea?

Interesting…

 

12 hours ago, Biggles87 said:

Good save on the prop. The 1/48 version which I have has a nylon gear gizmo which fits inside the spinner and allows the blades to contra-rotate ( in theory ) when one set is turned, must try it sometime.

 

John

Thanks John :) 

Oooh, contra-rotating prop gear? That sounds cool.

 

2 hours ago, Bigdave22014 said:

Ha!

After I was born, they tore the Hospital down!

No, seriously they did!

Thanks Dave:rofl:

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Sky was reached for.

Going for a 'salty' finish:

 

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Looks less patchy IRL but made me wonder what's the difference between 'varied effect' and 'badly painted'.

:hmmm:

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Looks varied to me

 

Jommetry

 

A picture is valued similarly to a farsand words they say

 

Airfix had to do a similar task (Almarks too but I used  their ones) on the transfers for the Sea Fury which I still have handy, that's 'andy.

 

Observe, the fuselage stripes were formed by using two arcs to fit around a tapered rounded fuselage, split along a central datum (jommetry)

 

Viola

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Arcs?

 

But it just looks like a vee shape of stripes.

 

but now it is two sets of very long radius arcs, lookit the straight edges

 

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Jommetry!

 

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42 minutes ago, CedB said:

made me wonder what's the difference between 'varied effect' and 'badly painted'.

It's the intention,  obviously :D

If you now go over the Sky coat with a very thinned mix of the same colour,  so to smooth the transitions and edges, you'll have done it with intention - hence, you obtain a varied effect. Simples. 

 

:rofl: :rofl:

 

Ciao 

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1 hour ago, CedB said:

Looks less patchy IRL but made me wonder what's the difference between 'varied effect' and 'badly painted'.

Badly painted is what I do, varied is what everybody else does.

 

She looks alright from here Ced.

 

Simon.

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36 minutes ago, Spookytooth said:

Badly painted is what I do, varied is what everybody else does.

 

She looks alright from here Ced.

 

Simon.

We are all our own toughest critics.

Learning from mistakes is part of the deal.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

...Okay, maybe that's going a bit far

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On 23/01/2021 at 09:44, perdu said:

Looks varied to me

 

Jommetry

 

A picture is valued similarly to a farsand words they say

 

Airfix had to do a similar task (Almarks too but I used  their ones) on the transfers for the Sea Fury which I still have handy, that's 'andy.

 

Observe, the fuselage stripes were formed by using two arcs to fit around a tapered rounded fuselage, split along a central datum (jommetry)

 

Viola

P1010453.jpg

 

Arcs?

 

But it just looks like a vee shape of stripes.

 

but now it is two sets of very long radius arcs, lookit the straight edges

 

P1010454.jpg

 

Jommetry!

 

Thanks Bill, perfectly explained :)

I might try some decals, or maybe mask templates, on later builds.

 

On 23/01/2021 at 10:16, giemme said:

It's the intention,  obviously :D

If you now go over the Sky coat with a very thinned mix of the same colour,  so to smooth the transitions and edges, you'll have done it with intention - hence, you obtain a varied effect. Simples. 

 

:rofl: :rofl:

 

Ciao 

Thanks Giorgio - got it :)

 

23 hours ago, Big Dave S said:

Smart job!

Thanks Dave :) 

 

23 hours ago, Spookytooth said:

Badly painted is what I do, varied is what everybody else does.

 

She looks alright from here Ced.

 

Simon.

:rofl:

 

22 hours ago, Big Dave S said:

We are all our own toughest critics.

Learning from mistakes is part of the deal.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

...Okay, maybe that's going a bit far

Quite right Dave and just far enough! :D

 

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All geared up for masking this morning, starting with this silly bit:

 

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Then I noticed this:

 

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At first I reached for the filler but then realised it should be flush, so:

 

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Luckily no paint had got in.

Now repositioned properly:

 

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I'll have to wait for that to dry now.

Pause.

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3 hours ago, Big Dave S said:

Enjoying the steps of this build.

 

Nice to be busy.... still looks good.

Thanks Dave :)

 

2 hours ago, giemme said:

Windshield fit looking much better now, Ced :clap:

 

Ciao 

Cheers Giorgio :)

 

13 minutes ago, perdu said:

Shocked at that Ced, got Gremlins in @ chez CedB?

 

A good catch and an excellent save mate.

know! Perhaps I pushed it out when fitting the main canopy? Who knows…

 

 

I probably won't link to this progress, such as it is, so here's the foam I've shoved up the intake to stop spray getting into the cockpit:

 

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Do you know that the DSG extends under the leading edge?

 

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Sapped my mojo so this is as far as I got.

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Mea culpa Ced, I thought that was something everybody knew. Topside camo runs underneath a few inches (6 I think, I'd have to check) and the yellow marks on British props are four inches from the tip.

 

All this sits in the memory from aeons back in history.


The leading edges being painted underneath stops the 'plane showing light against a dark background if it is attacking you.

 

Or me.

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1 hour ago, perdu said:

Mea culpa Ced, I thought that was something everybody knew. Topside camo runs underneath a few inches (6 I think, I'd have to check) and the yellow marks on British props are four inches from the tip.

 

All this sits in the memory from aeons back in history.


The leading edges being painted underneath stops the 'plane showing light against a dark background if it is attacking you.

 

Or me.

No worries Bill :)

 

1 hour ago, Big Dave S said:

Masking can be time-consuming!

It is, it is! Thanks Dave :) 

 

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I mean, look at this:

 

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I'm expecting to have to touch up but I'm hoping the Tape for Curves will hold:

 

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Ready for spraying, soon:

 

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3 hours ago, perdu said:

Topside camo runs underneath a few inches (6 I think, I'd have to check)

It doesn’t seem to be universal though - a quick google image search persuaded me that there’s some with overlap and some which have the division on the leading edge. The Wikipedia article on the Wyvern shows both, for instance. I remembered googling it before when I did a FROG one.

 

Regards,

Adrian

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2 hours ago, CedB said:

m expecting to have to touch up but I'm hoping the Tape for Curves will hold:

Ced, if that tape around the exhaust gives problems with forming a sufficiently sealed outline involving compound curves, I've found in similar situations in the past that firstly delineating the edge of the outline accurately with a strip no wider than 2mm let's you accurately define the required boundary between two regions (in terms of being able to bend and form complicated and varying curves without intrusive wrinkles disrupting the outline). Once you've an accurate boundary set in place, you can then build back from it with thicker strips of tape.

 

Apologies if this has already been covered - I'm a bit slow keeping up with everything going on these days...

 

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1 hour ago, AdrianMF said:

It doesn’t seem to be universal though - a quick google image search persuaded me that there’s some with overlap and some which have the division on the leading edge. The Wikipedia article on the Wyvern shows both, for instance. I remembered googling it before when I did a FROG one.

 

Regards,

Adrian

Aha, we learn something new every day!

Thanks Adrian :)

 

5 minutes ago, TheBaron said:

Ced, if that tape around the exhaust gives problems with forming a sufficiently sealed outline involving compound curves, I've found in similar situations in the past that firstly delineating the edge of the outline accurately with a strip no wider than 2mm let's you accurately define the required boundary between two regions (in terms of being able to bend and form complicated and varying curves without intrusive wrinkles disrupting the outline). Once you've an accurate boundary set in place, you can then build back from it with thicker strips of tape.

 

Apologies if this has already been covered - I'm a bit slow keeping up with everything going on these days...

 

Cheers Tony, great tip :)

I've been using thin tape from the Easy Cutting Mat earlier but thought I'd try the Tape for Curves. I may regret it.

 

We shall see:

 

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I’m always running out of «laughts» with the Ced’s threads! 😹 It’s great to see how you’re enjoying the builds even if it’s not an easiest ones, mr B.! Excellent progress so far, love the British birds. I have the Gannet in my stash, maybe it’ll be started one day. 👍

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