JohnT 3,891 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Chaps please let’s not get too excited over inaccurate box art. As a collector of aviation art I can see that neither Philip West or Robert Taylor was commissioned here and often the commercial artist misses the finer or not so finer points of the airframe. I suppose that’s why Roy Cross’s box tops are so well admired. As has been said one imagines or at least hopes the mould design and manufacturing process gets it right even if the box art is a bit iffy. I get the concern too that if the shape error is not picked up on the box art it might bode ill for the box contents All said and done it might be best waiting rather than speculating and ending up having a pop at each other in the process? 8 Link to post Share on other sites
mahavelona 280 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 The 'box art' we have been shown may not even be final. MJR Hobbies had this listed on Facebook for Q4 2021 and the artwork quality does not seem to par with other ICM releases so I would hardly be surprised if it is an early draft for the catalogue... I am not worried yet! 4 Link to post Share on other sites
VMA131Marine 2,518 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 2/5/2021 at 2:36 PM, Piotr Mikolajski said: Like... seriously? Boxart is commissioned by marketing, the artist provides the initial illustration. The illustration may be revised, changed, there may be several versions. The CAD team has nothing to do with this and has no influence on it. The relationship between the quality of the illustration and the quality of the parts is literally nonexistent. Actually, Airfix does supply their CAD surface model to the digital artist who does their box art. Link to post Share on other sites
Piotr Mikolajski 112 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 12 hours ago, VMA131Marine said: Actually, Airfix does supply their CAD surface model to the digital artist who does their box art. Companies also provide just one render, in a specific position, without surface detail, with a specific camouflage option. Others provide only a camo scheme, leaving the artist with creative freedom. Everything depends on the contract with the artists, and the artists - as a rule - are not employees of the company and did not develop the CAD model. Here is quite recent boxart for the FIAT CR.42 from Italeri (#1437). At the top is one of the draft versions, at the bottom the final version. You can see the differences, not only in the number of planes, but also in the quality of the illustration itself. The quality of the Beaufort boxart is lower than standard for ICM boxes, so I suppose the final version will be much better. And it still won't be the basis for judging the contents of the box. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
raafbloke 1 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 G'day Modellers, raafbloke from the down under colony of Tasmania here. As some of you may know this 31st of March was the 100th birthday of the RAAF, of which I had the honour to serve in over 40 years ago. Some mates and I are doing a multiple build of significant RAAF aircraft to celebrate and there are just two kits we have failed to source anywhere, so far. The main one we're after is a 1/48 Bristol Beaufort (the other is a 1/72 DHC Caribou but they are as rare as chook's teeth! And they were never made in 1/48, except for a ''crazy' resin kit that is even rarer now). I have a new Airfix 1/72 Bristol Beaufort coming in the mail to me now; sadly, all our builds have to be 1/48+ unless they were really big aircraft in reality. It's a bit like sending coal to Newcastle but I would be happy to send my Airfix 1/72 Beaufort gratis and free postage, to anyone who can help us get our hands on an ICM 1/48 Beaufort, or any 1/48 Beaufort kit for that matter. If the deal needs to be sweetened, I could let someone who leads us to a 1/48 Beaufort kit have the pick of my aircraft stash. Why, you might ask. A big part of our multiple build is historically important, specific, aircraft. When we got the licence to build Beauforts in Australia, we souped them up a bit and In the RAAF's hands, during WW2 in the Pacific, they turned out be quite effective where the Russians, and others, had several problems with them. It turns out one of our relatives skippered an Aussie Beaufort and had two kills with his 'fish'. That's the aircraft we want to build. When all the models are done and we've photographed them we'll donate the best of them to the RAAF Museum at Point Cook RAAF base. Then, if any of you good folk actually know where we can get a 1/72 DHC Caribou kit, intact, then I guess we'll have to come up with an even better incentive to get our mitts on that one. But we're not holding our breath. We've been searching for a 'Boo' for 4 years! Anyway, I wish I had more time to post on here but, as you might guess, we're a bit busy right now. I'm the poor sod that got elected to source kits and aftermarket gear, that'll teach me to have got into the Equipment mustering! My mates still think I can do an urgent AOG request no such luck. Thanks if you got this far into my long post. Cheers, Bill Halliwell PO Box 162 Lindisfarne TAS 7015 Australia 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Calum 4,258 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, raafbloke said: G'day Modellers, raafbloke from the down under colony of Tasmania here. As some of you may know this 31st of March was the 100th birthday of the RAAF, of which I had the honour to serve in over 40 years ago. Some mates and I are doing a multiple build of significant RAAF aircraft to celebrate and there are just two kits we have failed to source anywhere, so far. The main one we're after is a 1/48 Bristol Beaufort (the other is a 1/72 DHC Caribou but they are as rare as chook's teeth! And they were never made in 1/48, except for a ''crazy' resin kit that is even rarer now). I have a new Airfix 1/72 Bristol Beaufort coming in the mail to me now; sadly, all our builds have to be 1/48+ unless they were really big aircraft in reality. It's a bit like sending coal to Newcastle but I would be happy to send my Airfix 1/72 Beaufort gratis and free postage, to anyone who can help us get our hands on an ICM 1/48 Beaufort, or any 1/48 Beaufort kit for that matter. If the deal needs to be sweetened, I could let someone who leads us to a 1/48 Beaufort kit have the pick of my aircraft stash. Why, you might ask. A big part of our multiple build is historically important, specific, aircraft. When we got the licence to build Beauforts in Australia, we souped them up a bit and In the RAAF's hands, during WW2 in the Pacific, they turned out be quite effective where the Russians, and others, had several problems with them. It turns out one of our relatives skippered an Aussie Beaufort and had two kills with his 'fish'. That's the aircraft we want to build. When all the models are done and we've photographed them we'll donate the best of them to the RAAF Museum at Point Cook RAAF base. Then, if any of you good folk actually know where we can get a 1/72 DHC Caribou kit, intact, then I guess we'll have to come up with an even better incentive to get our mitts on that one. But we're not holding our breath. We've been searching for a 'Boo' for 4 years! Anyway, I wish I had more time to post on here but, as you might guess, we're a bit busy right now. I'm the poor sod that got elected to source kits and aftermarket gear, that'll teach me to have got into the Equipment mustering! My mates still think I can do an urgent AOG request no such luck. Thanks if you got this far into my long post. Cheers, Bill Halliwell PO Box 162 Lindisfarne TAS 7015 Australia The ICM kit isn't due out to late 2021 IIRC For the Caribou you'd be better off posting on some of the Australian Model For sales facebook groups. That's were the vast majority of 2nd hand stuff traded online is these days Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby 551 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 21 hours ago, raafbloke said: G'day Modellers, raafbloke from the down under colony of Tasmania here. As some of you may know this 31st of March was the 100th birthday of the RAAF, of which I had the honour to serve in over 40 years ago. Some mates and I are doing a multiple build of significant RAAF aircraft to celebrate and there are just two kits we have failed to source anywhere, so far. The main one we're after is a 1/48 Bristol Beaufort (the other is a 1/72 DHC Caribou but they are as rare as chook's teeth! And they were never made in 1/48, except for a ''crazy' resin kit that is even rarer now). I have a new Airfix 1/72 Bristol Beaufort coming in the mail to me now; sadly, all our builds have to be 1/48+ unless they were really big aircraft in reality. It's a bit like sending coal to Newcastle but I would be happy to send my Airfix 1/72 Beaufort gratis and free postage, to anyone who can help us get our hands on an ICM 1/48 Beaufort, or any 1/48 Beaufort kit for that matter. If the deal needs to be sweetened, I could let someone who leads us to a 1/48 Beaufort kit have the pick of my aircraft stash. Why, you might ask. A big part of our multiple build is historically important, specific, aircraft. When we got the licence to build Beauforts in Australia, we souped them up a bit and In the RAAF's hands, during WW2 in the Pacific, they turned out be quite effective where the Russians, and others, had several problems with them. It turns out one of our relatives skippered an Aussie Beaufort and had two kills with his 'fish'. That's the aircraft we want to build. When all the models are done and we've photographed them we'll donate the best of them to the RAAF Museum at Point Cook RAAF base. Then, if any of you good folk actually know where we can get a 1/72 DHC Caribou kit, intact, then I guess we'll have to come up with an even better incentive to get our mitts on that one. But we're not holding our breath. We've been searching for a 'Boo' for 4 years! Anyway, I wish I had more time to post on here but, as you might guess, we're a bit busy right now. I'm the poor sod that got elected to source kits and aftermarket gear, that'll teach me to have got into the Equipment mustering! My mates still think I can do an urgent AOG request no such luck. Thanks if you got this far into my long post. Cheers, Bill Halliwell PO Box 162 Lindisfarne TAS 7015 Australia I know this of no use to you, I had two 1/72 Caribou kits from a friends estate sale not too long ago. Only $20 but I passed them onto 1/72 builders in my club. I can check and see if they will part with them. Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Law 5,246 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I am very pleased to be late to this party. This is my scale so I will wait to get this instead of the Airfix one. I'm not worried about the box art. I'm more worried that they get the kit right and we don't have another Ju 88 issue. ICM don't fix their mistakes. The Ju 88 is a perfect example of that. Link to post Share on other sites
Eivind Lunde 494 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 05/04/2021 at 19:10, Greg Law said: I am very pleased to be late to this party. This is my scale so I will wait to get this instead of the Airfix one. I'm not worried about the box art. I'm more worried that they get the kit right and we don't have another Ju 88 issue. ICM don't fix their mistakes. The Ju 88 is a perfect example of that. What's wrong with the Ju-88? The cockpit floor issue? Link to post Share on other sites
Greg Law 5,246 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 hours ago, Eivind Lunde said: What's wrong with the Ju-88? The cockpit floor issue? Yes Also the Do215 and 17z tails are far too wide. I have built three of them with a correction aftermarket resin parts that made the models far more realistic. ICM never bothered to correct it on following versions even after it had been pointed out on the first kit. That said I am grateful to ICM for producing these kits in 1/48 Link to post Share on other sites
Homebee 23,833 Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 (edited) - ref. 48405 - WWII British Torpedo Trailer Source: https://icm.com.ua/aviation/wwii-german-torpedo-trailer/ V.P. Edited April 15 by Homebee 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen 2,449 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Homebee said: - ref. 48405 - WWII British Torpedo Trailer Source: https://icm.com.ua/aviation/wwii-german-torpedo-trailer/ V.P. I'm sure someone will correct me but I suspect this could also be used for Swordfish, Albacore and possibly Beaufighter kits as well. Link to post Share on other sites
alt-92 4,130 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 5 hours ago, Stephen said: I'm sure someone will correct me but I suspect this could also be used for Swordfish, Albacore and possibly Beaufighter kits as well. Not only that, but according to the URL, He-111s and Ju-88s too! Link to post Share on other sites
Homebee 23,833 Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 In design by Xtradecal - ref. X48219 - Bristol Beaufort Mk.I/IA Collection Pt.1 Bristol Beaufort Mk.I, L4449 ‘OA.H’ of 22 Squadron, Royal Air Force, based at RAF Thorney Island, UK, January, 1940. Bristol Beaufort Mk.IA, L9965 ‘T’ of an unknown Squadron, Royal Air Force, based in the Mediterranean, 1942. Bristol Beaufort Mk.I, N1011 ‘R’ of 16 Squadron, South African Air Force, based at Ivato, Madagascar, October, 1942. Bristol Beaufort Mk.IA, DD959 ‘Q’ of 217 Squadron, Royal Air Force, based at RAF Luqa, Malta, 1942. Bristol Beaufort Mk.IA, EK979 ‘35’ of the Middle East Check and Conversion Unit, Royal Air Force, based at Bilbais, Egypt, 1944. Bristol Beaufort Mk.I, DX157 whilst on it’s delivery flight to India, Spring, 1944. Bristol Beaufort Mk.IA, LR901 ‘Y9P’ of the Station Flight, RNAS Yeovilton, based at RNAS Yeovilton, UK, Spring, 1945. Bristol Beaufort Mk.IA DW891,‘Q’ of 217 Squadron, Royal Air Force, based at Vavuniya, Ceylon, April, 1944. Bristol Beaufort Mk.IA, LR906, ‘42’ of No.2 Torpedo Training Unit based at RAF Castle Kennedy, Scotland, UK, September, 1943. Source: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X48219 V.P. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Boak 7,074 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/3/2021 at 6:23 AM, raafbloke said: A big part of our multiple build is historically important, specific, aircraft. When we got the licence to build Beauforts in Australia, we souped them up a bit and In the RAAF's hands, during WW2 in the Pacific, they turned out be quite effective where the Russians, and others, had several problems with them. I don't think that the Russians got any Beauforts: none spare for one reason. They did take over some Hampden torpedo bombers which they put to reasonable use, and some Albemarles which they were welcome to but didn't care for them any more than we did. The RAAF produced some later Beauforts with P&W R1830s but these were just equivalents of the RAF's Mk.II. Possibly the actual engine variant differed a little. They certainly kept on producing them and put them to good use. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chrisov 124 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 4/3/2021 at 6:23 AM, raafbloke said: G'day Modellers, raafbloke from the down under colony of Tasmania here. As some of you may know this 31st of March was the 100th birthday of the RAAF, of which I had the honour to serve in over 40 years ago. Some mates and I are doing a multiple build of significant RAAF aircraft to celebrate and there are just two kits we have failed to source anywhere, so far. The main one we're after is a 1/48 Bristol Beaufort (the other is a 1/72 DHC Caribou but they are as rare as chook's teeth! And they were never made in 1/48, except for a ''crazy' resin kit that is even rarer now). I have a new Airfix 1/72 Bristol Beaufort coming in the mail to me now; sadly, all our builds have to be 1/48+ unless they were really big aircraft in reality. It's a bit like sending coal to Newcastle but I would be happy to send my Airfix 1/72 Beaufort gratis and free postage, to anyone who can help us get our hands on an ICM 1/48 Beaufort, or any 1/48 Beaufort kit for that matter. If the deal needs to be sweetened, I could let someone who leads us to a 1/48 Beaufort kit have the pick of my aircraft stash. Why, you might ask. A big part of our multiple build is historically important, specific, aircraft. When we got the licence to build Beauforts in Australia, we souped them up a bit and In the RAAF's hands, during WW2 in the Pacific, they turned out be quite effective where the Russians, and others, had several problems with them. It turns out one of our relatives skippered an Aussie Beaufort and had two kills with his 'fish'. That's the aircraft we want to build. When all the models are done and we've photographed them we'll donate the best of them to the RAAF Museum at Point Cook RAAF base. Then, if any of you good folk actually know where we can get a 1/72 DHC Caribou kit, intact, then I guess we'll have to come up with an even better incentive to get our mitts on that one. But we're not holding our breath. We've been searching for a 'Boo' for 4 years! Anyway, I wish I had more time to post on here but, as you might guess, we're a bit busy right now. I'm the poor sod that got elected to source kits and aftermarket gear, that'll teach me to have got into the Equipment mustering! My mates still think I can do an urgent AOG request no such luck. Thanks if you got this far into my long post. Cheers, Bill Halliwell PO Box 162 Lindisfarne TAS 7015 Australia Hope you have found a Caribou by now but if not just seen this one on ebay.uk. https://www.ebay.com/itm/194077397333?hash=item2d2fea1155:g:cQYAAOSwsYNgi1k6 Not a brand I know but looks like the Hobby Craft moulds to me. Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites
Tomas Enerdal 101 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Thinking about the Australian project: If they want a Beaufort with Twin Wasps, which 1/48 donor would be the best with regards to engines and engine cowlings? Dakota? Catalina? Wildcat x2? Other? Link to post Share on other sites
VMA131Marine 2,518 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 On 4/30/2021 at 11:14 AM, chrisov said: Hope you have found a Caribou by now but if not just seen this one on ebay.uk. https://www.ebay.com/itm/194077397333?hash=item2d2fea1155:g:cQYAAOSwsYNgi1k6 Not a brand I know but looks like the Hobby Craft moulds to me. Cheers Chris The brand is Idea from S Korea. They made a lot of Hobbycraft’s molds. However, I did not realise that they had released the Caribou kit under their own label. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
brewerjerry 696 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Hi going back on thread topic, just got some 1:48 beaufort 32otu decals by Tasman coming from Oz via ebay cheers jerty Link to post Share on other sites
oz rb fan 894 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 On 4/21/2021 at 11:25 PM, Graham Boak said: I don't think that the Russians got any Beauforts: none spare for one reason. They did take over some Hampden torpedo bombers which they put to reasonable use, and some Albemarles which they were welcome to but didn't care for them any more than we did. The RAAF produced some later Beauforts with P&W R1830s but these were just equivalents of the RAF's Mk.II. Possibly the actual engine variant differed a little. They certainly kept on producing them and put them to good use. all DAP beauforts had P&W R1830's there were a few more changes including turret and fin. Link to post Share on other sites
brewerjerry 696 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, oz rb fan said: all DAP beauforts had P&W R1830's there were a few more changes including turret and fin. Hi Can't wait to see the sprue photos when they eventually come out To see if they intend to do multiple marks of beauforts like their 88's and 111's etc cheers jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Swindell 2,547 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 7 hours ago, VMA131Marine said: The brand is Idea from S Korea. They made a lot of Hobbycraft’s molds. However, I did not realise that they had released the Caribou kit under their own label. Hobbycraft kits were available packaged as Idea on the domestic market in the late 80's/90s. The sprues were indistinguishable from the Hobbycraft kits. Certain Japanese kits, including Hasegawa were available in Idea packaging at the time, the sprue layouts were identical but the detail was a lot softer. Link to post Share on other sites
Biggles81 80 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 On 4/21/2021 at 11:25 PM, Graham Boak said: The RAAF produced some later Beauforts with P&W R1830s but these were just equivalents of the RAF's Mk.II. Possibly the actual engine variant differed a little. They certainly kept on producing them and put them to good use. Some - around 700 airframes is more than some I would think. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 8,929 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 3 hours ago, Dave Swindell said: Certain Japanese kits, including Hasegawa were available in Idea packaging at the time, the sprue layouts were identical but the detail was a lot softer Some Fujimi kits as well - I've got a CH-46 in an Idea box, looks just as nice as the Fujimi kit. Link to post Share on other sites
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