alt-92 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 34 minutes ago, cema_ga said: It's only me or the nose looks oversimplified or just wrong? Based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cema_ga Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, alt-92 said: Based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, cema_ga said: Have you seen the plastic or CAD renders then or are you just referring to the boxart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cema_ga Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tbolt said: Have you seen the plastic then or are you just referring to the boxart? I haven't any other info except of boxart. But, if the manufacturer can't find proper picture of the subject (it takes me 2 minutes...) for the catalog...I'm not excited at all. But I hope to see the plastic shape is correct in the future. Just ordered the Airfix kit -looks like they made their homework better (including the boxart) and from the start of the project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, cema_ga said: I haven't any other info except of boxart. But, if the manufacturer can't find proper picture of the subject (it takes me 2 minutes...) for the catalog...I'm not excited at all. But I hope to see the plastic shape is correct in the future. Just ordered the Airfix kit -looks like they made their homework better (including the boxart) and from the start of the project. Well quite often early pictures in catalogues ae just place holders and sometimes are the wrong version and even if it's the box art what does it matter? It maybe be a better kit then the Airfix one you can't tell that from the box art, after all some really bad kits have had great box art all they do is sucker people in to buying a poor kit. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cema_ga Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tbolt said: It maybe be a better kit then the Airfix one Let's hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 To each their own. I thought it was a bit weird to raise that as concern without concrete info - cad or sprue shots. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Hi At least with ICM I personally have no worries about the clear parts being totally clear. Unlike a few of my last airfix kits. Cheers Jerry Edited February 4, 2021 by brewerjerry Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cema_ga Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, alt-92 said: To each their own. I thought it was a bit weird to raise that as concern without concrete info - cad or sprue shots. Isn't the boxart wrong? Isn't it's used by ICM in their official catalog? This is enough for me to arise this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flarpen Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 8 hours ago, cema_ga said: Just ordered the Airfix kit -looks like they made their homework better (including the boxart) and from the start of the project. Have I missed something? When did Airfix announce a 1/48 Beaufort? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Batt Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Tbolt said: Have you seen the plastic or CAD renders then or are you just referring to the boxart? This is some sort of p-take, isn't it? That's not a box-art, it's a very well known wartime photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Thompson Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, Dave Batt said: This is some sort of p-take, isn't it? That's not a box-art, it's a very well known wartime photo. Actually I think he means that this is what he was comparing the box art to. I must say, it would never occur to me to be concerned about which kit was better or released first when the scale differs. Apart from anything else I'll likely only buy the one in the scale I prefer (unless it's a Bristol Fighter, when all reason goes out of the window). Paul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cema_ga Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, flarpen said: When did Airfix announce a 1/48 Beaufort? I never wrote nothing about Airfix Beaufort in 1/48. I compared it to the Airfix 1/72. I prefer to build the better representation of the subject in smaller scale (example Hasegawa's better detailed and engineered B-26 vs Monogram B-26 in 1/48). And yes-I compared the ICM boxart with the photo of the real aircraft in almost same aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Dave Batt said: This is some sort of p-take, isn't it? That's not a box-art, it's a very well known wartime photo. No it's clearly a painting in the ICM catalog. Go back and read was has been posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Hi Just looked at the catalogue the 1:48 A-26 painting has one wing bigger than the other Hilarious 🤣 Can't wait to get my mitts on the Beaufort, If it is anything like JU-88's I have it will be great Cheers. Jerry 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 13 hours ago, cema_ga said: I haven't any other info except of boxart. But, if the manufacturer can't find proper picture of the subject (it takes me 2 minutes...) for the catalog...I'm not excited at all. But I hope to see the plastic shape is correct in the future. Just ordered the Airfix kit -looks like they made their homework better (including the boxart) and from the start of the project. The thing is that no one builds the box art. The plastic in the box is what matters. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 ...jeez, we're pre-judging boxart now! 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Actually, you could take that as a good sign. Apparently the feeling is that the plastic is fine so we must have something else to nitpick 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 21 hours ago, cema_ga said: Isn't the boxart wrong? Isn't it's used by ICM in their official catalog? This is enough for me to arise this question. Like... seriously? Boxart is commissioned by marketing, the artist provides the initial illustration. The illustration may be revised, changed, there may be several versions. The CAD team has nothing to do with this and has no influence on it. The relationship between the quality of the illustration and the quality of the parts is literally nonexistent. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: Like... seriously? Boxart is commissioned by marketing, the artist provides the initial illustration. The illustration may be revised, changed, there may be several versions. The CAD team has nothing to do with this and has no influence on it. The relationship between the quality of the illustration and the quality of the parts is literally nonexistent. Haven't you heard? Some of the top companies are now working from artist's rendering for the basis of their CAD. This is what Trumpeter are using for their latest kit - 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXANTOMCAT Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 The window alignment is better than a Mach2 kit though... 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Batt Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 22 hours ago, Tbolt said: No it's clearly a painting in the ICM catalog. Go back and read was has been posted. Er, that wasn't the image shown in the posting to which I referred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Remember the initial box art to Airfix’s 1/72 Lightning F.6... it had no hori stabs!! Thankfully, the included sprues did include these important parts, so I wouldn’t use any box art as a barometer for kit accuracy. Roy Huxley seemed to always make Matchbox kits look a lot better than the plastic included. Cheers.. Dave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Dave Batt said: Er, that wasn't the image shown in the posting to which I referred. Yes but I was referring to the boxart, then you said" That's not a box-art, it's a very well known wartime photo." But I was asking cema-ga why he was comparing the boxart to that photo and you asked if I was taking the p*ss as it's photo??? So why did you ask me that? You seem to think I was referring to the photo instead of the boxart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Chaps please let’s not get too excited over inaccurate box art. As a collector of aviation art I can see that neither Philip West or Robert Taylor was commissioned here and often the commercial artist misses the finer or not so finer points of the airframe. I suppose that’s why Roy Cross’s box tops are so well admired. As has been said one imagines or at least hopes the mould design and manufacturing process gets it right even if the box art is a bit iffy. I get the concern too that if the shape error is not picked up on the box art it might bode ill for the box contents All said and done it might be best waiting rather than speculating and ending up having a pop at each other in the process? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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