Team Aer Lingus Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Happy New year everyone Not sure if these questions have been asked before so apologies in advance I'm looking to model an Aer Lingus 1B from the Valom kits Do I use the airliner or Valetta kit as a basis? or cross kit both and what exactly do I need to use to get a authentic model thanks Eamonn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Do you have any decent photos of Aer Lingus Vikings? They are hard to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Here is quite good photo of Viking in Aer Lingus colors, around middle of page: https://www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/vickers-vc1-viking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 Thanks Eric & Vesa for your kind replies, I've only got what's on the interweb & a long distance pic of the whole fleet behind the hangars @ Dub before their sale to Misrair, from Liam Byrne's History of Irish aviation book! The 1B had an extended fuselage so would I be better going for a Valetta? Are the engines correct ? and that's before we get into the various colour schemes Aer Lingus gave them in their short time with the Airline. Conundrum time 🤔 regards Eamonn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Vesa Jussila said: Here is quite good photo of Viking in Aer Lingus colors, around middle of page: https://www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/vickers-vc1-viking That is quite nice. I expect the cheat line and lettering are green but it would be nice to see some colour renditions - photos or artwork of what they might have looked like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Dear Aemonn: Happy New Year to you and yours! The Valom kit comes with both fuselages, right? If that is the case, scab the Valetta forward fuselage to the Viking fuselage forward of the first passenger window. This will allow you to continue using the passenger door without having to fill in the Valetta cargo doors and relocating/re-scribing a new passenger door and having to carve out a window. How many clear cockpit sections come with the Viking kit? It would be good to have the Valetta ones handy in case you mess up the Viking's. 2 hours ago, Team Aer Lingus said: The 1B had an extended fuselage so would I be better going for a Valetta? Are the engines correct The Viking 1b engine cooling flaps are of a different shape than the Valetta's, which you can probably achieve by some careful sanding. Also, be sure to omit the conical oil cooler exhaust (beneath the engine) that is unique to the Valetta. Otherwise, external cowl/intake differences are nil. The difference was the power rating of the engine, which was lower on the Viking, and of course the absence of the cooling fan. If you decide to model it without the prop spinner, you have a bit of work on your hands because I think the kit's prop is optimized for the spinner. Might be worth investing in MPM's Wellington Mk.II, which comes with both the Merlin and Hercules engines, and gives you the spinner center-body that was found on Vikings/Valettas. Best, Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 My Valletta arrived just now just the one fuselage inside so hopefully the Viking has the two ? Thanks for all that info Alex looks like its going to be a lot of extra work to get a correct version. Might be best if I wait until the Viking arrives & see where it stands could be awhile before it gets built regards Eamonn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Yes the Viking kit has a spare Valetta fuselage included. As suggested above, could well be easier to scab a section of Valetta fuselage onto the Viking, an extra 28 inches forward of the wings for the 1B in real life. Cheers, Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Team Aer Lingus said: My Valletta arrived just now just the one fuselage inside so hopefully the Viking has the two ? Thanks for all that info Alex looks like its going to be a lot of extra work to get a correct version. Might be best if I wait until the Viking arrives & see where it stands could be awhile before it gets built regards Eamonn Valom are releasing the Viking kit with BEA and Kings Flight decals - not sure if this will be he correct version, but maybe worth checking out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disraeligears Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I am also attempting the Aer Lingus viking and have the valom Viking kit with the two fuselages.im having problems with Flickr so am unable to post pics of the sprues.I posted on another part of BM before Xmas that I would post pics but have been tied up with Xmas Family stuff and didnt get around to it.if you PM me maybe i can help. The longer fuselage in the kit has the extra length forward of the fuselage,the passenger door will need to be modified,i am open to correction on this though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelh Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, AMB said: Valom are releasing the Viking kit with BEA and Kings Flight decals - not sure if this will be he correct version, but maybe worth checking out? BEA and indeed BOAC owned shares in Aer Lingus at the time so that might imply commonality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 Wow guys thanks for all the info this is what makes this site so great Agree PTMvarsity fan Others recommending scabbing So adding a little to the Viking 1a seems the best bet glad they've added the spare fuselage hopefully in the one I ordered Another possible release of a 1B Viking do you think Adrian?? should I have just waited the Valletta looks a nice kit . NoelH Your right BEA held a majority sharehold & foisted the Viking on Aer Lingus who wanted more C-47s. The Viking wasn't very popular and the less said about the decision by the government to sell Low hour spanking new L-749 Connies to BOAC the better. Have to admit the Viking in Lingus colours has always been on my wish list but they had quite a number of different schemes in their short service. I'm very grateful for your replies gents Eamonn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Glad to help! I looked at the beautiful photo on the BAe Systems web-site, and from what I can tell, you likely don't need to do anything to the passenger door on the Viking kit--but I admit I have not seen the sprue shots. In addition to scabbing on the forward fuselage from the extra Valetta fuselage halves in the Viking kit, you'll want to gently sand off the raised detail just aft of the cockpit, and install the little intakes (2 x part 54) one either side per the photos of the real thing. As you probably know, I'm enjoying my Valetta build, which now is at the primer paint stage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 Hi guys My Valom Viking kit has arrived at last two fuselages inside (nice touch). I also purchased a TAHS book by Reg Baram on the Vickers Viking. There's a wonderful photo of EI-ADF inside @ Dub but it's front on and the tail bands look lower although that could just be the angle. When I've got the hang of photoimage I will upload some pics regards Eamonn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Glad you have received your Viking, I found it an excellent kit! The TAHS book is good, not much technical info but lots of nice photos! Cheers, Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 There IS a Viking 1A kit: Valom VAL72149 https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/VAL72149?result-token=GIkWu I've ordered one - if nobody else does I'll be reporting on this kit. I'm very interested in the Viking - I had a ride in one as a young child And... I love transport aircraft! Cheers, Moggy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 silly me - the one in discussion was the 1B - the kit is an 1a With much egg on my face, Moggy (facing a conversion to -1B) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Moggy said: And... I love transport aircraft! Me too! It's a special taste, I think. The sprues are available for viewing on Valom's facebook page. Thanks to @Homebee for pointing them out! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 I will upload some pics later today always interesting to see the amount of new info you get from other modelers on here fantastic. Eamonn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 First attempt at uploading a pic so forgive me if it doesn't work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 First Image I've posted happy days! As promised eventually here are the two fuselages side by side so would it be easier to convert the doors on the Valetta or scab the Viking? Eamonn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Thanks, Eamonn! You can really see the differences here, especially with the position of the doors, and the overall length. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggy Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Team Aer Lingus said: As promised eventually here are the two fuselages side by side so would it be easier to convert the doors on the Valetta or scab the Viking? Eamonn Changing the windows / doors on the Valetta fuselage is a lot easier than sawing off two fuselages (in just the right spot and 90 degrees to center line) to join together. I'm waiting for my own Viking; I was forced to buy the Royal Flight box because the others were sold out except the early Viking 1A (that has different wings to all the others) Cheers, Moggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxdecal Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 1:42 PM, Moggy said: Changing the windows / doors on the Valetta fuselage is a lot easier than sawing off two fuselages (in just the right spot and 90 degrees to center line) to join together. I'm waiting for my own Viking; I was forced to buy the Royal Flight box because the others were sold out except the early Viking 1A (that has different wings to all the others) Cheers, Moggy So for an Aer Lingus Viking 1B the best starting point is the Royal Flight boxing of the Valom Kit? I didn't know the wings were different on the Viking 1A. Did Valom update the wings as well as the fuselages between the various boxings? I can cut out windows but as Moggy said cutting two fuselages at exactly the right angle and joining them square and true has never worked for me in the past! Cheers Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith in the uk Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 That looks like a very nice kit , all we need now is a Handley Page Hastings . 😬 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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