P-51 Help,paint scheme,wheels,Iwo Jima.

[Werdna]

My suggestion:  paint the gear doors in silver.  If, at some point in the future, you come across photographic evidence of the doors painted green - then simply re-paint them.  In the meantime, if someone tells you the doors should be painted green, ask them for the evidence.  Choose a colour and go with it, or the model will never get built  

[DraganChe]

You are right...but I just hate those manufactures teasings for paint schemes.I just hate when they present color profiles like that...how do they know those things,was they there?

I just dont understand.I need to find some clue for this aircraft.

[Werdna]

22 minutes ago, DraganChe said:

.I just hate when they present color profiles like that

 

It would not be the first time that Eduard had provided a misleading colour profile.  If the only evidence for the green doors is from the Eduard profile - and the balance of other evidence shows no such colour - then I would go with the balance...

[DraganChe]

Ok,what is the story about "Dede Lou" aircraft,have anybody find something about it,main quest is:

Does it have "Dede Lou" artistic writings on both sides of the airplane?Color profile says that it had on both side,anybody knows something about it?

[DraganChe]

Dear freinds,

 I have searched all reference materials that are available to me, and I can not find any photo from the oposite side of this aircraft,"Dede Lou".

So, I changed my mind and I need to make another one.

 

 There is interesting paint scheme, also in the same box of this model kit,it is:

P-51D-25, 44-73623 flown by Maj. Harry C. Crim (later flown by Flt.Off. Theo Gruici), CO of 531st FS, 21st FG, 7th AF, Iwo Jima, July/August 1945.

This color profile:

I wonder, does anybody know anything about this aircraft, does it also had artwork only on the left side of the aircraft? On the nose and on the cover of wheel bay?

 I have found photos of this aircraft, only of the left side...not a single photo of the right side.

So, if someone knows anything about this paint scheme, or he have photo of this aircraft from the right side off  the fuselage, please be kind, and share it with me, so that I can make my model kit correct.

Thanks in advance.

Edited January 10, 2021 by DraganChe

[noelh]

While it's reasonable to doubt the manufacturers recommendations. You have to assume they've done their homework. They do get it wrong at times. I'm currently working on a model of a subject with a scheme which every manufacturer has got wrong. But I only found the proof when I came across a photo in a magazine backing up my suspicions. That photo is not online. Not every photo is online.

 

Eduard may indeed have access to references showing the gear doors were green. It's interesting that they highlight the fact in the instructions. I doubt it's artistic licence. 

 

But as someone said earlier. If you've a doubt. Paint it your way. Without evidence to the contrary no one can say you're wrong. 

 

Equally with your latest question, there may be no pictures of the starboard side not least possibly because there was nothing interesting to photograph. 

 

 

Edited January 11, 2021 by noelh

[DraganChe]

7 hours ago, noelh said:

While it's reasonable to doubt the manufacturers recommendations. You have to assume they've done their homework. They do get it wrong at times. I'm currently working on a model of a subject with a scheme which every manufacturer has got wrong. But I only found the proof when I came across a photo in a magazine backing up my suspicions. That photo is not online. Not every photo is online.

 

Eduard may indeed have access to references showing the gear doors were green. It's interesting that they highlight the fact in the instructions. I doubt it's artistic licence. 

 

But as someone said earlier. If you've a doubt. Paint it your way. Without evidence to the contrary no one can say you're wrong. 

 

Equally with your latest question, there may be no pictures of the starboard side not least possibly because there was nothing interesting to photograph. 

 

 

Dear collegue,thank you, this helps.

[quangster]

On 1/11/2021 at 10:03 PM, DraganChe said:

Dear collegue,thank you, this helps.

So now - almost 4 months on - what is your conclusion?

Can you show us some pictures of your finished Eduard P-51 Iwo jima limited edition? Just curious 😃

[pirats]

Tnkx for info. Im also aiming to make Iwo Jima Mustang.

Sorry if ask in wrong place. But i have Q about the maintenance doors on lower engine cowling in front of wheel bays. The Eduard suggest to fill it on one side and scribe one on other side. 

Honestly im quite confused as thous doors appear on Eduard Info 2019-08 P-51D-10.

I found in Eduard Manuals that thous doors not filled only appear only D-30 variant. So how was it in D-20/25? 

 

 

[silberpferd]

Regarding those mainteantce hatches on the lower engine cowling, the P-51D-20-NA  had two on the left side, and none on the right side

 

 

Don't touch anything on the Eduard kit for a D-25-NA, one hatch on the left and two on the right.

 

Laurent

[pirats]

Thanks that explains lot.

D-5, 10, 15, 20 had only 2 hatches on left side (the one made and one to scribe, and 2 on right to fill).

D-25 stay same ( 3 hatches) and

D-30 have 4 hatches (to scribe one on left side)

Do i understand correctly?

[silberpferd]

D-5, 10, 15 had only one hatch, the forward one, on the left.

 

D-30 is the same as D-25, 3 hatches.

 

Laurent

[pirats]

Ok. Thanks you very much. That's means that Eduard messed up the instructions on some types. Or thous hatches where added later? 

So 5, 10, 15 scribe the the missing one and fill all other 3

20 fill the 2 right and scribe the one on left

25, 30 leave like it is 3 hatches. 

 

 

[Ham]

I don't know if you found these websites that are dedicated to the Iwo Mustangs and the very long range escort mission.  There are quite a few photos on these sites.   Someone else already mentioned the excellent Carl Molesworth book Very Long Range P-51 Mustang Units of the Pacific War which also has some great photos.

 

My opinion based on looking at a lot of different photos of Iwo Mustangs is that if they had names, it was on both sides.  It may or may not have been the same name.  Aircraft were handed off to different pilots and maintenance crew.  Also, some aircraft were shared by two different pilots.   

 

Finally, regarding Stinger VII, if you look very carefully at the close up photos that show the landing gear doors you will notice they have the number 67 on them.  This plane in squadron number was common to Iwo Mustangs.  It was unique to group, squadron and aircraft.  Not all aircraft had the number on the main gear doors.  Seems most common in the 15th Fighter Group, which was the first unit to fly into Iwo Jima.  The Japanese defenders were still there!

 

Good luck with your models.

 

https://7thfighter.com/45th/album/index.htm

 

https://7thfighter.com/

 

http://www.506thfightergroup.org/index.asp

 

 

 

[pirats]

So how about the wheel fitting? The wheels are to big or the leg are to small?