Nick C Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, ivan-o said: Sorry to say probably not! The Takom kit is a late model 432 with cam pole holders and different shape wing mirrors and fire extinguishers. Usually if a side bin was fitted it was a long chieftain bin ‘acquired’ by fair means or foul. Ivan ps they wouldn’t have had the top cage either! any one would have been locally made by the crew or knocked up in the REME workshop Thanks Ivan, I'll have to have a look and see what I can do. No top cage (fortunately) as I'm going to open the top hatches up. Cheers Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 The new cam system was issued in 94 for my unit and it took a good 12 months for the brackets to be welded to the fleet Nick, the kits we had were meant for the Warrior so were bodged on to the 43’s, I can remember the REME Tiffy saying that they were not allowed to just weld them on at the time as there was no official instruction. Our Cages were local manufacture by the REME and were a bit rough and ready, a lot bigger than the cage Takom provide which looks like it’s proper issued CES item. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick C Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 Thanks @Dads203, @ivan-o, @Hamden & @Swiftnbold for the help on the details. Picks from late last weekend show the addition of some details and markings; Fire extinguisher markings are from the Accurate Armour set; Exhausts and spare track links as well as marking on the Chieftain, the track links are a bit too rusty and will get toned down. The oil drum will get a strap as well. Red cross on the first aid kit (far left) was donated from an admirals ensign on a 1/350 Royal Navy ship; Um'd and ah'd about it but based on feedback, this morning I started removing the cam pole holders and the side bin😬. Wouldn't have been happy leaving it and knowing it wasn;t quite right for the period. The Fire extinguishers are staying tho! Should clean up ok, I've got a single Chieftain side bin from the spares box I can use to cover any damage that can't be sanded away satisfactorily. Cheers Nick 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vytautas Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Looks really good! Vytautas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The BCF fire extinguishers were replaced in the early 90’s for those versions you have modelled on the 43 so I reckon you are close, pretty sure Chieftain MK 11’s were still kicking about in training units. I seem to remember hearing that characteristic engine sound on CTA (Catterick Training Area) in the early 90’s from some donkey wallopers training sprog crews. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiftnbold Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 If you don't mind me saying Nick..... I never saw a Mk2 with a rusty exhaust, MK1 yes, every single one but the diesel engines exhaust never got hot enough to flake the paint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick C Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 18 hours ago, Swiftnbold said: If you don't mind me saying Nick..... I never saw a Mk2 with a rusty exhaust, MK1 yes, every single one but the diesel engines exhaust never got hot enough to flake the paint. Hi mate, don;t mind at all. I was going for this kind of look from the Tankograd book; Are they painted that colour rather than rust showing through? The side bin and cam pole holders removal is complete, not too much damage! Sand bag covers added to the mirrors from tissue paper and white glue;, they'll help disguise the late model mirror shape; FInal details going on, padlocks and Chieftain turret stowage; Thanks for looking Cheers Nick 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Thats not rust on the exhaust of the 43, the heat used to change the colour very quickly to an almost pink colour. The closer to the baffle box then the hotter and more pink the paint used to turn, further away it didnt get as hot so some of the original colour used to show towards the end of the pipe. The K60 engined 43's exhaust used to get really hot, hot enough to cook on, after a road move of a few hours we used to place compo tins on the exhaust pipe - dented so they didn't explode, it used to warm them up nicely. A handy little tip if we moved into a location fully tac with no engines running. The BV was of course the main way of cooking but if the 43 wasnt running then they could flatten the vehicle batteries pretty quick if we used the BV's not good in some tight locations where getting another 43 to slave you ( Jump Start) could be very difficult. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick C Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 59 minutes ago, Dads203 said: Thats not rust on the exhaust of the 43, the heat used to change the colour very quickly to an almost pink colour. 3 hours ago, Swiftnbold said: I never saw a Mk2 with a rusty exhaust, MK1 yes, every single one but the diesel engines exhaust never got hot enough to flake the paint. Thanks both, so maybe a light red/brown with a hint of the original black stripes showing through? Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nick C said: Thanks both, so maybe a light red/brown with a hint of the original black stripes showing through? Cheers Nick Everything from a rust colour/red brown/ light pink to a salmon pink, all depanding on how many layers of paint and how long since its last repaint, in my case the wagons were painted often in my unit ,the exhaust tip was black with soot. One thing that they guys used to do to any new person posted in from the factory was to pour a waterbottle down the exhaust pipe and get him to look for "smoke " fairly close to pipe when it was started up. The individual would get covered by black sooty water when the driver hit the gas and the contents were thown out at a rapid rate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiftnbold Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I don't know what's going on with that one Nick but the only time I saw anything like that was if they were painted with red oxide. I've had a scan through Google images and there are some scabby examples with faded paint but not rusted except for some REME 434s that seemed to suffer from it. I can honestly say the LAD attached to our Bn never had rust of any kind on theirs nor did our 432s (except on the tracks), we rarely painted the exterior of ours (internally some did), just kept them clean and serviceable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick C Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Swiftnbold said: I don't know what's going on with that one Nick but the only time I saw anything like that was if they were painted with red oxide. I've had a scan through Google images and there are some scabby examples with faded paint but not rusted except for some REME 434s that seemed to suffer from it. I can honestly say the LAD attached to our Bn never had rust of any kind on theirs nor did our 432s (except on the tracks), we rarely painted the exterior of ours (internally some did), just kept them clean and serviceable. Thanks for the info, based on this and what @Dads203 said above, I'm going to redo the exhaust for more of a faded paint look. I wrongly assumed rust, so thanks for pointing me in the right direction 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick C Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Limited progress of late due to work stuff, but a little bit done; Exhaust repainted re/brown with a hint of pink at the hot end; The 432's had a filter to try and break up the colours a bit, and the crew are on board! Chieftain commander's cupola has been fitted, GPMG still needs some attention; And the tracks are done ready for weathering, went for a German grey over a black primer as pics of these modern ish vehicles don't show too much rust on the tracks. The tracks had dark steel pigment rubbed on the high points and thene the rubber track pads fitted; More soon hopefully! Cheers Nick 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Very nice work Nick, the 43 is looking great fella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Dads203 said: Very nice work Nick, the 43 is looking great fella What he said! Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick C Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 Wheels have been dirtied up (undersides of the hull as well) with a dust wash and pigments; And installed; And the tracks on - finally; But I lost the barrel off the GPMG, with hindsight I fitted the commander's cupola and figure way too early 🙄 Cheers Nick 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 That's looking really good Nick. I like the exhaust and the figures. All excellent. Nice work. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Nick C said: I fitted the commander's cupola and figure way too early It's always a gamble and a compromise when we fit bits on. It's something of a problem area for me as a newish armour modeller, I still haven't worked out what I'm going to break and what I won't be able to paint to match the hull! Nevertheless, your project is looking good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick C Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 Little update today, Side plates installed, not a great fit but I think that more operator error. Turret and gun in place to see how it looks overall; The pair together; Started the weathering on the lower hull; Highlights and a pin wash on the uppers and then some weathering and they'll be there. Cheers Nick 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Lovely work Nick, both are really looking the business fella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, Dads203 said: Lovely work Nick, both are really looking the business fella Totally agree! Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan-o Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 As they day ‘what a pair’! Lovely work done there Nick👌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiftnbold Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 All your hard work has paid off Nick. You've produced two outstanding, museum standard replicas of a pair of cold war icons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick C Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, Swiftnbold said: All your hard work has paid off Nick. You've produced two outstanding, museum standard replicas of a pair of cold war icons. Not quite finished yet but thank you. Hope the weathering and base won't detract from them! 16 hours ago, ivan-o said: As they day ‘what a pair’! Lovely work done there Nick👌 Cheers Ivan 16 hours ago, Hamden said: Totally agree! Stay safe Roger Thank you Roger 16 hours ago, Dads203 said: Lovely work Nick, both are really looking the business fella Thanks Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edjbartos Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Good work Nick, absolutely gorgeous, both look brilliant... Ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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