72modeler Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 The late Paul Allen had the passion and the means to bring many classic aircraft back into airworthy condition. Here are some of the Luftwaffe aircraft in his collection. I hope you enjoy seeing them. Video via Youtube. Mike 10 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Great Video, thank you for posting it. Cheers Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimea River Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I agree with Dennis. I really hope that the aircraft of this collection find a good home - owners with money and the passion to keep them flying. The Me262 was so close to flying when the funding ceased and the Stuka would be a treasure to see in the air. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) On 12/23/2020 at 9:09 AM, Crimea River said: the Stuka would be a treasure to see in the air. Yes, indeed it would! IIRC he also has a Bell P-59A Airacomet that was going to be restored with its original Whittle engines. Hopefully his collection and the museum/restoration shops are in some sort of trust and will continue. Mike Edited December 25, 2020 by 72modeler corrected spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimea River Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 There's also a long term Fw189 project that probably won't get finished now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPuente54 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 This might make Seattle a worth while place to visit. Off topic a bit @72modeler did you see a mention in FSM about a group in Pennsylvania that is trying to restore a P-61 to flight status? A photo of the plane is shown; but, it doesn't have a turret. So, it could be a P-61A, or a P-61B without the turret installed as yet. The issue was in the Feb. to Apr. issue; don't remember which one,apologies. The owners of the title museum are definitely doing a reat thing. I hope for great success in their efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 @JPuente54I think this is the one you are referring to at the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum in Reading, PA http://www.maam.org/p61/p61_begin.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, hsr said: @JPuente54I think this is the one you are referring to at the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum in Reading, PA http://www.maam.org/p61/p61_begin.htm Yep- that's the one! It will have an operating dorsal turret. You beat me to posting a link for him! It's a P-61B. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimea River Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 5 hours ago, JPuente54 said: This might make Seattle a worth while place to visit. Off topic a bit @72modeler did you see a mention in FSM about a group in Pennsylvania that is trying to restore a P-61 to flight status? A photo of the plane is shown; but, it doesn't have a turret. So, it could be a P-61A, or a P-61B without the turret installed as yet. The issue was in the Feb. to Apr. issue; don't remember which one,apologies. The owners of the title museum are definitely doing a reat thing. I hope for great success in their efforts. I think the museum is shuttered now if I'm not mistaken. Certainly nothing flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPuente54 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 @72modeler and @hsr, thank you for replying,I believe the man's name is Sabo, but, not sure. I do not remember his first name. FSM did not mention the subtype(A or B); but, nice to know that it is a P-61B in the process of being restored. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfires Forever Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I was there before the whole covid thing hit and I highly recommend going there, it is outside of Seattle. The Mossie is georgeous, they have a couple of Spits, a Hurricane, their famous Fw's and if you are an armour fan, a Pzkw IV, Pershing and Churchill crocodile just to mention a few. They wsre really moving along on the Stuka but alas the covid put the kibosh on that. Oh yes,the Ki-43 Oscar and Zero (not a fan of the elongated canopy, not a K model) but a Zero nonetheless. Oh yes, a static display of atomic bombs to boot. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Spitfires Forever said: they have a couple of Spits I was aware of AR614, what's the other one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Hi I visited quite a few years back the news in a paper was https://www.heraldnet.com/news/flying-heritage-combat-armor-museum-will-close-for-now/ “The announcement leaves the popular visitor site’s fate up in the air. “We will spend the months ahead reassessing if, how and when to reopen,” the group said.” list of collection http://flyingheritage.org/Explore/The-Collection.aspx the is also the https://www.museumofflight.org which has a spitfire IX in its collection and there also is the https://historicflight.org https://historicflight.org/collection/ who also have a spitfire IX cheers jerry P.S. if you eventually are making a long journey to visit, dont forget the https://www.bcam.net Edited January 20, 2021 by brewerjerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie22 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I was lucky enough to visit the collection more than ten years ago. It was open at only very restricted times back then. I happened to turn up on a day it was closed. As I was about to move on I spotted Paul Allen coming out the entrance with some visitors and two bodyguards. I approached one of the guards, when he was a bit away from the group, and asked him to explain to Mr Allen that I had been to a conference at Boeing and was due to return to Australia the next day: would it be possible for me to have a quick look at the collection? Paul Allen himself came across and pointed out that he was engaged in a business transaction at the time, but I would be welcome to look at the aircraft if I was happy to be escorted, and I could take as long as I liked. So I got to seee the collection accompanied by a big guy, immaculately dressed in a tailored suit that had a bulge under the armpit! He was a nice guy but knew nothing about aircraft. I think he was happty to have a couple of hours off the job. Peter M 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfires Forever Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 19 hours ago, k5054nz said: I was aware of AR614, what's the other one? They have the Mk Vc and a Mk XVI / IX if I am not mistaken. That one could be on loan from the P of F museum for all I know. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11bravo Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 To do it right, you really need a guy extreme wealth and extreme passion. I wish Elon Musk had an interest in something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 After the Stuka project was finally made public a couple of years back I bought the 1/48 Airfix kit to represent it - this Stuka is what spurred my interest in the type when it was imported to NZ in my childhood - and aside from some interior parts she's waiting for the real deal to be completed so I can copy paint, stencils etc. I know it was a terrible tragedy for the Allen family when Paul died, but part of me was immediately worried these projects wouldn't be completed. They say no news is good news, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Hi. Worse case I think is if the collection gets split up and sold It appears that the whole 'empire' was inherited by his sister So the aircraft flying side I suppose depends on if she is interested Cheers. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 9:47 AM, brewerjerry said: Hi. Worse case I think is if the collection gets split up and sold It appears that the whole 'empire' was inherited by his sister So the aircraft flying side I suppose depends on if she is interested Cheers. Jerry Wonder if she needs a boyfriend? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimea River Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 No. I tried already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, 72modeler said: Hi Seems she maybe divorced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jody_Allen Cheers. Jerry Edited January 26, 2021 by brewerjerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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