bjohns5 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Can anybody tell me the official name of the landing flare holder that 1930s RAF planes had mounted under each wing? And does anybody have more detailed photos or drawings of one so I can scratchbuild a pair to put on my Tiger Moth since Airfix didn't include them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) I believe it's the Holt flare system, and if I recall, was already being used late WWI for night time landing. There are examples of this on Canadian Siskens, possibly employed as part of their aerobatic displays. Two images from my hard drive, I think, were found on the Aerodrome forums: ------------------------------------------------------------ ... and my simple answer made from brass sheet and tubing on the 1/72 Matchbox kit: regards, Jack Edited December 16, 2020 by JackG 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I've got this photo, if it's any help: Simon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjohns5 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 Thanks guys, that helps a lot. Looks like there were at least two styles. One with a single support and an elastic strip, and one with double support and no elastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjohns5 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 13 hours ago, JackG said: and my simple answer made from brass sheet and tubing on the 1/72 Matchbox kit: That is really nice work. especially for 1/72. I'm amazed at how tiny the Tiger Moth is in 1/48 scale. But it's enormous compared to a typical 1/72 biplane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) Yes, there does appear to be some kind of pivot/swing ability. Perusing the Aerodrome forum again, find mention that the hinge allowed the bracket to 'give' a little in case it struck the ground when landing. So maybe that rubber piece with springs at either end allowed the brace to pop back into position? regards, Jack Edited December 16, 2020 by JackG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I asked about this on the RAF Commands Forum earlier this year. After bit of further digging, I came across this entry in an American manual which may be useful: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fNgo8nPrLOEC&pg=PA196&lpg=PA196&dq="Holt+Wing+Tip+Flare"&source=bl&ots=fDTA8zz9tO&sig=ACfU3U1ZFn72pqWQFAiV9oygXbqd6_c-Cw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjSuomcmo3oAhU9WhUIHS1YANEQ6AEwDXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q="Holt Wing Tip Flare"&f=false Simon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 This is quite helpfull. All the comments. Due to the fact, when I worked on my FE2b from WNW, I had no idea what this thing below the wing could be. Fine, I know it now for future projects. Happy modelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjohns5 Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 What started my questioning, below the starboard wing on this Tiger Moth assigned to an anti-submarine "Scarecrow" flight is what certainly looks like a Holt flare mount. I don't see the elastic cord so I assume it is the newer split-bracket style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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