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And the Huey begat the Huey Cobra which begat the Cheyenne which begat the Apache. Relevance, Game, set and match I think.

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3 hours ago, Meatbox8 said:

They probably need to make space for the creche play area.

Isn’t ‘creche’ a posh word for a prang?

 

Is that my coat over there.........?

 

Trevor

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2 hours ago, Pete in Lincs said:

And the Huey begat the Huey Cobra which begat the Cheyenne which begat the Apache. Relevance, Game, set and match I think.

The museum was going to get an Apache (Wattisham's hangar queen) as the centrepiece of the Attack helicopters display until just before Christmas when the MOD announced they were keeping it to turn into a AH Mk 2 ground trainer. 🤬

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1 hour ago, bentwaters81tfw said:

Ah, yes, the one they fried?

Jocks eh? First it's Mars bars, then....

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On 1/6/2021 at 5:16 PM, dov said:

An example of a big museum of aviation in Japan

Gifu Kakamigahara Aerospace Museum

This one is close to Nagoya, but still 20km out of town. I visited it several times. Now, this museum has a very unique and rich amount of unique aircraft. The luck in this case is the sponsor only. Kawasaki a short time ago invested a huge sum in this project and makes a real wonder out of it.

 

http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sorahaku.net%2F

 

This may not so be in GB. Where privately donated museums are, but not in this scale.

It is sad, very sad, but does anybody know a way out?

Happy modelling

Wow wanna go ....but then I would go anywhere atm 🤭

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On 1/7/2021 at 6:04 PM, Dave Fleming said:

There is a move at RAFM to tell the story of the Royal Air Force through it's people rather than just it's airframes. What happens when you put a social historian in charge I suppose, but that's why they are moving from 'grab one of everything' policy that previous staff had. 

Snag is Dave .....that is exactly what the RAF is all about people .....no people no airforce .....in my case the best bit about my 22 years in the RN (FAA) was the people and the stories to be told ....the runs ashore and laughing whilst sat in a trench getting very wet ....be boring otherwise

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5 hours ago, Aeronut said:

The museum was going to get an Apache (Wattisham's hangar queen) as the centrepiece of the Attack helicopters display until just before Christmas when the MOD announced they were keeping it to turn into a AH Mk 2 ground trainer. 🤬

Quite right too.....if the asset still has a use then the MoD should use it .....one day they will get a cab once they become obsolete 

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20 hours ago, Max Headroom said:

Isn’t ‘creche’ a posh word for a prang?

 

Is that my coat over there.........?

 

Trevor

A bit like putting 'Air', 'Hair' and 'Lair' together as a general greeting as a required for a commission in the Guards. 

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On 1/13/2021 at 12:59 PM, spruecutter96 said:

Schoolkids LOVE moaning about how their school-trips have no relevance to anything. They are too young to appreciate anything that isn't currently "trendy" - to them, being up to date with the latest bit of corporate-run rubbish is the most important thing in life. They would be extremely reluctant to express any interest in a subject their mates are not into.  Unfortunately, that's just the way things are for the young-uns. 

 

Chris.  

 

PS: I once heard a schoolkid at Duxford proclaim "I thought this would be about history! It's just a load of old aircraft!!" Casting pearls before swine....

That would have been heaven for me as a schoolboy!

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On 19/01/2021 at 22:07, junglierating said:

Snag is Dave .....that is exactly what the RAF is all about people .....no people no airforce .....in my case the best bit about my 22 years in the RN (FAA) was the people and the stories to be told ....the runs ashore and laughing whilst sat in a trench getting very wet ....be boring otherwise

 

So true.

 

What people experience is what becomes history. Take the people away and it becomes not much more than a list of stuff that happened with no relevance to anyone. The only way we can have a connection to, and understanding of, history is to include the human factor in events. 

 

Read Jeffery Quills memoirs, for example, explaining what he and others did when flight testing the Spitfire. That's a vastly better story than reading factual engineering reports (they are dull, believe me, I write them - or at least the modern equivalent).

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32 minutes ago, wellsprop said:

What people experience is what becomes history. Take the people away and it becomes not much more than a list of stuff that happened with no relevance to anyone. The only way we can have a connection to, and understanding of, history is to include the human factor in events. 

 

I completely agree... BUT, if you take away the hardware, you take away not only the tangible evidence but also any reason for a physical presence of any kind: in the limit, that kind of museum will exist only in cyberspace as a collection of information. The hardware grounds the information in reality and acts as a preserved 'library' of information for future generations.

 

Some years ago, the Science Museum did a sort of 'archaeological dig' on Stephenson's 'Rocket'. In effect, they used modern methods to examine the real artifact in great detail and produced a long paper giving a history of all the changes which took place over its development. For the first time since 1829, we understand how and when the innovations were introduced. The Smithsonian has also been using this sort of approach for many decades.

 

If the RAF Museum continues further down its present path of aircraft disposal, there will be less and less of a reason to visit. In the longer run, without a major aircraft collection, it need no longer exist.

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@KevinK yes, very true. The aircraft are inseparable from peoples experience and visa versa.

 

I must admit, I have always found Cosford a bit of an eclectic mix of aircraft, rather than a museum solely to tell the RAFs story. 

 

That said I could bang on about the cold War Hall and experimental hall forever! The Lightning hung nose pointing skywards, over the V bombers is just fantastic :)

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