Retired Bob Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Jasper dog said: I'll take punt, your good lady wife doesn't read your posts? What do you mean? ....she types them for me. I always tell people the truth that she is in the local coven, she thinks its funny. She even bought a picture of a witch flying off on a broomstick entitled "Off to Work" Once I have a coat of dunkelgelb on I will finish off my two Panthers in the GB. Welcome back Andy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Retired Bob said: What do you mean? ....she types them for me. I always tell people the truth that she is in the local coven, she thinks its funny. She even bought a picture of a witch flying off on a broomstick entitled "Off to Work" Once I have a coat of dunkelgelb on I will finish off my two Panthers in the GB. Welcome back Andy Thanks Bob....stick wrong end of 😉👍 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, Andy J said: Hi Bob, for what it's worth i think the zimmerit may look ok once painted and weathered 🤔. Mr colour leveling thinner would probably soften the plastic however care would be required or you might end up with only half a Tiger 😬 Although I am by no means a Tiger expert in any way, I’d have to agree with you. This is my build of a Dragon Tiger that I’m in the process of finishing and I quite like the effect. It doesn’t look as good as the alternative versions of zimmerit that I’ve seen you guys using on the Panthers in the STGB, but for mere mortals like me it’s sufficient My photo’s aren’t the best but they show the zimmerit effect reasonably well. Sean 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Mozzy19 said: Although I am by no means a Tiger expert in any way, I’d have to agree with you. This is my build of a Dragon Tiger that I’m in the process of finishing and I quite like the effect. It doesn’t look as good as the alternative versions of zimmerit that I’ve seen you guys using on the Panthers in the STGB, but for mere mortals like me it’s sufficient My photo’s aren’t the best but they show the zimmerit effect reasonably well. Sean I agree Sean that zimmerit looks perfectly acceptable to me but like yourself I'm no expert either 😉 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mozzy19 said: Although I am by no means a Tiger expert in any way, I’d have to agree with you. This is my build of a Dragon Tiger that I’m in the process of finishing and I quite like the effect. It doesn’t look as good as the alternative versions of zimmerit that I’ve seen you guys using on the Panthers in the STGB, but for mere mortals like me it’s sufficient Hi Mozzy, it does look better under a coat of paint, I'm hoping that I can soften the effect and then some Mr Surfacer will improve it to how I could get zimmerit to look when I applied it with filler. When I was stationed over in Germany, a German modeller gave me some filler to make zimmerit, it was great stuff, slow drying so you could get a even pattern, unfortunately it's long since dried up, but I have not found anything like it in this country. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Cauliflower and Sprout soup ?? Ye Gads !! Seriously ??!! 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Longbow said: Cauliflower and Sprout soup ?? Ye Gads !! Seriously ??!! 😂 Totally!!!, She has made carrot and sprout before, not that I would eat it, or do anything else with it!!! I'm only human. 😛 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Retired Bob said: Totally!!!, She has made carrot and sprout before, not that I would eat it, or do anything else with it!!! I'm only human. 😛 “Hark !!..... Thunder in the Distance !!” 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Longbow said: “Hark !!..... Thunder in the Distance !!” Has the same effect when I buy MORE models. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Retired Bob said: Hi Mozzy, it does look better under a coat of paint, I'm hoping that I can soften the effect and then some Mr Surfacer will improve it to how I could get zimmerit to look when I applied it with filler. When I was stationed over in Germany, a German modeller gave me some filler to make zimmerit, it was great stuff, slow drying so you could get a even pattern, unfortunately it's long since dried up, but I have not found anything like it in this country. I think I may have inadvertently managed to soften the effect in places purely by being a bit heavy handed with the ol’ paintbrush and not paying attention. What was it Bob Ross once said, “We don’t make mistakes, just happy little accidents”... Sean 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mozzy19 said:What was it Bob Ross once said, “We don’t make mistakes, just happy little accidents”... Sean Tell that to Retired Bob 🤣 19 minutes ago, Mozzy19 said: IWhat was it Bob Ross once said, “We don’t make mistakes, just happy little accidents”... Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mozzy19 said: I think I may have inadvertently managed to soften the effect in places purely by being a bit heavy handed with the ol’ paintbrush and not paying attention. What was it Bob Ross once said, “We don’t make mistakes, just happy little accidents”... I know it sounds as if I'm unhappy with Dragons zimmerit, it's just they did much better with their Panther, JagdPanther and Panzer IV's. With their Tiger and King Tiger they plastered it on whole panels without leaving areas for exhausts and other bolted on bits. Sean, did you remove the zimmerit before adding the exhaust pots and covers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzy19 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Retired Bob said: Sean, did you remove the zimmerit before adding the exhaust pots and covers? I didn’t. I’d seen that it needed to be removed in previous builds but I’d forgotten what I’d read by the time I got round to building it. Sean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 19 hours ago, robw_uk said: anyone built Zvezda Pz. Kpfw. VI Tiger E (3446) - seems to come with link & length tracks - Scalemates would seem to give it an "ok" All I can say is that some of the lads built Zvezda kits in the Panther GB, produced roughly the same time as their Tiger, and they looked rather good. Not as detailed, or complicated,as others, but finish to nice looking models. Prices of kits are very reasonable too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Here's a question to lob the tiger amidst the pigeons.. Tunisia based /operated Tigers...colour? Graugrun RAL 7008 Braun RAL 8020 Sandgelb RAL ? Or anything else I've not thought of? I'm thinking single colour as opposed to the camouflage example like the bovington one? My idea, for now, being either Tiger 141 or 241. 141 is the easy option, 241 requires slight modifications like the 20odd Jerry can rack on the turret roof and moving headlamps.. Cheers Darryl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Having re read yesterday's input from various folks I'm now thinking RAL 8000 Gelbbraun... Or in other words AK 702.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six97s Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 16 hours ago, Retired Bob said: Well, I will try and lighten the mood to it's usual level. I'm already in the poo, upset the wife by emptying her cauldron (yes, she's a Witch, burn her, others have tried) apparently the concoction in said cauldron was her attempt at making soup....cauliflower and sprout soup....ye gods haven't we suffered enough this year without something like this? Anyway back to the modelling, welcome to the thread David, Andy come back to us, you're Tiger looks great (said like in the Frosties advert) This is where I have got too with my Tiger, like David said their zimmerit is not great, I have been trying to improve it by applying Tamiya extra thin glue to soften it and then rework it with a screwdriver zimmerit tool, it didn't work, I will have to try a stronger solvent. I am still hoping to get a coat of paint on before the year is out. (wheels and sprockets done) As a noob, I'm hesitant to question anything and I might be a bit impaired after overindulging the last couple of days, but is that track back to front? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jasper dog said: Having re read yesterday's input from various folks I'm now thinking RAL 8000 Gelbbraun... Or in other words AK 702.... I would go with gelbbraun, though I have those 2 books that @Dads203has, the Histoire & Collections ones, they show a profile in RAL 7008 grey-green. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Were there any in Ducati Red as I have loads of that on the shelf??😉 Gelbbraun looks to be a good colour and a good base to work on. The Tamiya kit I have suggests a 1:1 mix of olive and dark yellow but God knows how that will turn out. I'll probably go with the original Tamiya dark yellow as a base. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Six97s said: As a noob, I'm hesitant to question anything and I might be a bit impaired after overindulging the last couple of days, but is that track back to front? It's ok you're not seeing things impaired, it is on reversed. Early Tigers had a left and right sided track but later on it was decided to just make a single pattern and reverse it on the other side, the track will only go one way onto the sprocket. If you have been looking for AM tracks on a well known site you will see mirror pattern tracks advertised, these are the earlier L & R sided tracks, I'm not sure when the change happened, David will know I'm sure. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six97s Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Retired Bob said: It's ok you're not seeing things impaired, it is on reversed. Early Tigers had a left and right sided track but later on it was decided to just make a single pattern and reverse it on the other side, the track will only go one way onto the sprocket. If you have been looking for AM tracks on a well known site you will see mirror pattern tracks advertised, these are the earlier L & R sided tracks, I'm not sure when the change happened, David will know I'm sure. I should have known better than to question an old hand! 😬 Thanks for the explanation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Six97s said: I should have known better than to question an old hand! 😬 Thanks for the explanation. Absolutely no problem, it's only by research and asking questions that we all learn this stuff. I have quite a few books on Tigers but it's only as I build a kit do I find out things about them, like why my early Tiger has L & R tracks and a late one has only a single type. Just don't ask what cauliflower & sprout soup tastes like, that's a step too far! Edited December 27, 2020 by Retired Bob missing word 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Ok so on my return home from work this has arrived Full of interesting facts infact I thought i might share a few with you all🙂 Did you know that in the UK there's an armour modeller who doesn't know the difference between a Tiger l and a Tiger ll.....strange but true 🤔 Or the colonial carpenter who reckons that the Tiger l had zimmerit on the horizontal plate 🤭 Then there's some retired chap who reckons the Tiger l ran on secret fuel...sprouts and cabbage he reckons were the main ingredients 🙄 Like I said a hell of a read though I'm disappointed that no crayons were included to colour in the pictures. Now where's the section on rivets 🤔 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Retired Bob said: I would go with gelbbraun, though I have those 2 books that @Dads203has, the Histoire & Collections ones, they show a profile in RAL 7008 grey-green. I think the colour of my Tiger l is about perfect .....how do I know this.....because it says so in my new book.....chapter 2 titled Andy's perfect colour choice/Tiger l 🙂 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Thou Dust Jest !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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