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In The Wrong Hands GB. Close... but no cigar!


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I like this GB idea very much .

SWMBOd would say however that ANY model kit i have or build is definitely in 'the wrong hands'.. the list of DIY jobs left un completed is growing... LOL so perhaps i shouldn't commit to this GB yet but i will follow it with relish!

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22 minutes ago, Col Walter E Kurtz said:

so perhaps i shouldn't commit to this GB yet but i will follow it with relish!

Plenty of time to get those DIY jobs done...

 

Go on, sign up - you know you want to! :wicked:

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I'd love to sign up.. however ..... i've only just managed to dispose of the horse's head left at the foot of the bed a la The Godfather -Part 1 because i started the Revell B17 Little Miss Mischief before the kitchen cupboards were done..🐴 🩸 🛏️

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11 minutes ago, Col Walter E Kurtz said:

because i started the Revell B17 Little Miss Mischief before the kitchen cupboards were done..

Oof. Asking for trouble, that.

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Today's interesting example of an aircraft In The Wrong Hands is this captured Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress "Wulfe Hound".

 

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Based at RAF Molesworth, the aircraft force-landed at Melun, France on 12 December 1942, after attacking the Rouen-Sotteville railroad marshaling yards, becoming the first B-17 captured intact by the Luftwaffe. Flight tested at Rechlin the Luftwaffe's famed test facility airfield as DL+XC, Wulfe Hound visited fighter units throughout Germany and France, so that pilots could recognize the Fortress's strengths and weaknesses. Wulf Hound then returned to Rechlin in July 1943, before being transferred to KG 200 in September 1943 as A3+AE.

 

The aircraft was eventually destroyed in an American bombing raid against the airfield at Oranienburg on 10 April 1945.

 

Wulfe Hound's American pilot, Lieutenant Paul Flickenger, said that he always felt guilty because his was the first B-17 that the Luftwaffe was able to capture in a flyable condition. The crew was attempting to destroy the airplane by stuffing a parachute into a fuel tank and then firing a Very pistol flare into it. Unfortunately, the Germans arrived before they could get a fire started. He ended up as a P.O.W. and managed to escape twice, being captured again on both occasions.

 

Source: https://captured-wings.wikia.org/wiki/41-24585 

 

It would be a brave and determined modeller who took on that vast expanse of the dreaded yellow!

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23 minutes ago, TonyOD said:

It would be a brave and determined modeller who took on that vast expanse of the dreaded yellow!

 

I know just the person, an expert, lives in Scotland.

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No. 1426 ‘Enemy Aircraft’ Flight, Collyweston, July 1942 – February 1945. No 1426 (Enemy Aircraft) Flight acquired their Henschel Hs 129B W Nr0297 in July 1942 from North Africa. It had flown with I/Schlachtgeschwader (SG) 2 of the Luftwaffe. It took over twelve months to bring this aircraft up to flying standard as NF756. It was flown again at Collyweston on 13 May 1944. After the disbandment of No 1426 Flight NF756 was transferred to the Central Fighter Establishment at Tangmere, and thence to storage with No 6 Maintenance Unit at Brize Norton. It was struck off charge as scrap in August 1947.

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9 hours ago, Ratch said:

No. 1426 ‘Enemy Aircraft’ Flight, Collyweston, July 1942 – February 1945. No 1426 (Enemy Aircraft) Flight acquired their Henschel Hs 129B W Nr0297 in July 1942 from North Africa. It had flown with I/Schlachtgeschwader (SG) 2 of the Luftwaffe. It took over twelve months to bring this aircraft up to flying standard as NF756. It was flown again at Collyweston on 13 May 1944. After the disbandment of No 1426 Flight NF756 was transferred to the Central Fighter Establishment at Tangmere, and thence to storage with No 6 Maintenance Unit at Brize Norton. It was struck off charge as scrap in August 1947.

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Another fine example, thank you!

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23 hours ago, Marklo said:

Would the British planes that landed in Ireland and used by the IAC ( they did pay for them btw) count?

 

Don't know this one. What's the story? Could it be said that the British were unhappy about this state of affairs?

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I think it was one of those situations where we bent the rules a little bit. Any airplanes that came down in Ireland were taken by the state and the pilots interned. However British planes were put into the Aer Corps and the British government paid the full amount, also the pilots were allowed to slip away home as well. German pilots and planes were to be kept till the war was over.

 

I think there were some Hurricanes, Spitfires and possibly an Anson. I don’t know if any German planes or fliers ever ended up here.

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On 1/4/2021 at 11:12 AM, TonyOD said:

Today's interesting example of an aircraft In The Wrong Hands is this captured Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress "Wulfe Hound".

 

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Based at RAF Molesworth, the aircraft force-landed at Melun, France on 12 December 1942, after attacking the Rouen-Sotteville railroad marshaling yards, becoming the first B-17 captured intact by the Luftwaffe. Flight tested at Rechlin the Luftwaffe's famed test facility airfield as DL+XC, Wulfe Hound visited fighter units throughout Germany and France, so that pilots could recognize the Fortress's strengths and weaknesses. Wulf Hound then returned to Rechlin in July 1943, before being transferred to KG 200 in September 1943 as A3+AE.

 

The aircraft was eventually destroyed in an American bombing raid against the airfield at Oranienburg on 10 April 1945.

 

Wulfe Hound's American pilot, Lieutenant Paul Flickenger, said that he always felt guilty because his was the first B-17 that the Luftwaffe was able to capture in a flyable condition. The crew was attempting to destroy the airplane by stuffing a parachute into a fuel tank and then firing a Very pistol flare into it. Unfortunately, the Germans arrived before they could get a fire started. He ended up as a P.O.W. and managed to escape twice, being captured again on both occasions.

 

Source: https://captured-wings.wikia.org/wiki/41-24585 

 

It would be a brave and determined modeller who took on that vast expanse of the dreaded yellow!

Maybe as this:

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Best Regards

Stefan

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On 1/10/2021 at 1:51 PM, Marklo said:

I think it was one of those situations where we bent the rules a little bit.

 

It sounds to me that the Brits pretended to be a little bit miffed, but then cheerfully cashed the cheque! 😁

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Messerschmitt Bf 110C–4 2177 5F+CM AX772 Originally of 4.(F)/14 intercepted by RAF fighters while on a reconnaissance mission on 21 July 1940. Forced down near Goodwood Racecourse, Sussex. The Royal Aircraft Establishment repaired this aircraft and after handling trials, was flown to the Air Fighting Development Unit at Duxford in October 1941. In March 1942 AX772 was transferred to No. 1426 Enemy Aircraft Flight at Collyweston until moving to the Enemy Aircraft Flight of the Central Flying School at Tangmere in January 1945. It was stored at No. 47 Maintenance Unit (MU) Sealand in November 1945. Scrapped in 1947.
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4 hours ago, Ratch said:

Yes it is @TonyOD

 

Maybe I should have put a warning against this proposal that there may be a lot of yellow involved. Everyone loves painting yellow...

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Bf 109E-3, W Nr. 4101 became DG200 after a forced (wheels up) landing at RAF Manston on 27 November 1940. It was rebuilt by Rolls Royce (including a new propeller) and after extensive testing, transferred to 1426 ‘Enemy Aircraft’ Flight, Duxford. Its canopy was lost at Duxford when a six-footer of a test pilot had it removed. On 12th April 1943 No.1426 Flight moved from Duxford to RAF Collyweston, satellite field of RAF Wittering. Circa Sep 1943, with newer Bf109s available to No.1426 Flight, the aircraft was retired to No.16 MU Stafford for long-term storage as a Museum item, and is now displayed at the IWM Hendon.
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They just keep on coming from @Ratch! Great stuff!

 

I'm pressing on with my captured, commandeered and then recaptured LeO 451 now and hope to have a result within, ooh, a month.

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Considering I have built over 30 captured aircraft and have god knows how many more to do, I should really be in this one. Look out for my shiny American Ki 43 coming soon to the completed section!

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Thanks and welcome to @Brad and @Beazer, good to have you on board! Sounds like you're a bit of a specialist Brad, woulkd you mind sticking a picture of that Ki 43 on here when it's finished?

 

We're edging towards a ticket to the bunfight... any more takers?

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  • TonyOD changed the title to In The Wrong Hands GB. Now two-thirds of the way to the bunfight!

My 'builds so far' contribution.

 

Just two that fit the bill. A Polikarpov I-15bis captured by the Finns during the 1940 conflict I believe and later used as trainers. Yes its 144th scale so tiny and needs a little touching up, its for a future diorama scene.

 

The other was one of my very first builds, a scene from the Warsaw Uprising in 1/100th.

 

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