Smudge Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I finally succumbed and bought the new Airfix Mig-17, after being a bit luke warm to the idea at first, as I do like the AZ kits. I have to say that it looks great and I'll probably be getting a few more. I am aware of some of the 'controversy' around the wings in some circles, but I think I can live with that. A couple of questions though, and I can't find any other threads regarding these, so here goes. Has anyone tried to convert back to a early 'Fresco A' with the non afterburner rear end and smaller airbrakes (or is there another kit for this version) ? Has anyone tried to convert to the Polish built Lim-6bis with the large parachute fairing (or is there a aftermarket part) ? The extra parts in the box obviously point to other boxings, The rockets I believe to be for a Egyptian Air Force example, and the rocket pods could be for a number of operators. Also of course the two canopies, although I can't find much on the use of non-rear view mirror versions. What is the current thinking regarding any new boxings, markings and types etc? Any murmurings leaks or rumours from Airfix? Any proposed release dates for new versions? Any information gratefully received. Thanks for your interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 So what’s story on the wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Hi Martin @RidgeRunner Well................apparently it revolves around the nuances and subtle shapes and curves of the main wings. I suspect this could get quite involved, and I don't claim to have any first hand knowledge, but here is a link that contains some of the discussion around it, and links to another forum. http://britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235049172-172-mig-17f-fresco-c-by-airfix-released-pe-set-by-arma-models/page/8/ Cheers. Edited November 29, 2020 by Smudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Smudge said: Hi Martin @RidgeRunner Well................apparently it revolves around the nuances and subtle shapes and curves of the main wings. I suspect this could get quite involved, and I don't claim to have any first hand knowledge, but here is a link that contains some of the discussion around it, and links to another forum. http://britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235049172-172-mig-17f-fresco-c-by-airfix-released-pe-set-by-arma-models/page/8/ Cheers. Ah ha, thanks mate:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I'll be looking for your build! I enjoyed building the new Mig. Some others had issues I did not have and perhaps I had issues others did not. In the end it was a satisfactory build and suited my modelling aesthetic. Regarding aftermarket alterations...I am not in that loop. Enjoy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Hi John. Thank you. Glad to hear you enjoyed making your one. I have some great decal sheets with some unusual operators, hence my interest in some of these options. I'll definitely post up some pictures when I get it done. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hothersall Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I have wondered about the extras in the kit. The single rockets are definitely for an Egyptian aircraft, so all you need are some Egyptian decals, and the rocket pods are for the Polish Lim-6 fighter bomber, but they left out the braking chute part... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Ryan Hothersall said: .................the rocket pods are for the Polish Lim-6 fighter bomber, but they left out the braking chute part... My hope is they'll do a re-box with a new fuselage for the Lim-6 Always the optimist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Smudge said: My hope is they'll do a re-box with a new fuselage for the Lim-6 Either for the Lim-6bis or for the MiG-17PF, as those (called Lim-6M/MR) also were used by the Polish Air Force armed with the MARS unguided rocket launchers https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/model/Mikoyan-Gurevich Lim-6MR Cheers Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 23 hours ago, Smudge said: Has anyone tried to convert back to a early 'Fresco A' with the non afterburner rear end and smaller airbrakes (or is there another kit for this version) ? Fresco A has been issued by Dragon in 1994 and then reboxed by Bilek in 2003 and Zvezda in 2019. Regrettably this kit is severely undersized (some 1:76-1:80), so you can't mate the Zvezda tail with the rest of Airfix (or AZ) kit Cheers Michael. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 30/11/2020 at 22:18, KRK4m said: .......................... for the Lim-6bis or for the MiG-17PF, as those (called Lim-6M/MR) Yes, that would be cool. On 30/11/2020 at 22:23, KRK4m said: Fresco A has been issued by Dragon in 1994 and then reboxed by Bilek in 2003 and Zvezda in 2019. I hadn't realised that. Thanks for the info. Keeping my fingers crossed for Airfix to come through for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Some time ago I have measured these kits and some story is there Cheers Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 12:18 PM, Ryan Hothersall said: the rocket pods are for the Polish Lim-6 fighter bomber, The East Germans used the MARS on their MiG-17's as well, that would negate the need for the brake chute fairing of the Polish Lim-6: https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/mig17gdr.jpg Cheeers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Hi Andre. Yes, thanks, I have seen some pictures of East German Mig-17 with these rocket launchers. My bet would be for Airfix to release the East German version. A shame as I would rather see the Lim-6. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Durbon Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I‘m voting für the PFU with those giant missiles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Taylor Durbon said: I‘m voting für the PFU with those giant missiles. You'd need a new wind screen as well in addition to the radar nose, I'd love one as well but consider it unlikely to come from Airfix. Cheers, Andee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedtea Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 11/30/2020 at 8:32 AM, Smudge said: I finally succumbed and bought the new Airfix Mig-17, after being a bit luke warm to the idea at first, as I do like the AZ kits. I have to say that it looks great and I'll probably be getting a few more. I am aware of some of the 'controversy' around the wings in some circles, but I think I can live with that. A couple of questions though, and I can't find any other threads regarding these, so here goes. Has anyone tried to convert back to a early 'Fresco A' with the non afterburner rear end and smaller airbrakes (or is there another kit for this version) ? Has anyone tried to convert to the Polish built Lim-6bis with the large parachute fairing (or is there a aftermarket part) ? The extra parts in the box obviously point to other boxings, The rockets I believe to be for a Egyptian Air Force example, and the rocket pods could be for a number of operators. Also of course the two canopies, although I can't find much on the use of non-rear view mirror versions. What is the current thinking regarding any new boxings, markings and types etc? Any murmurings leaks or rumours from Airfix? Any proposed release dates for new versions? Any information gratefully received. Thanks for your interest. Zvezda do the 17 A ...its apparently the Dragon Mig 17 mould which came with both early and late rear fuselages. However the Zvezda only has the sprues for the A series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Here is the Dragon kit, with rhe markings for the new Airfix kit: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/5523327022/in/album-72157704080083934/ this is the Airfix kit with rockets: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/52867115295/in/album-72157704080083934/ and this is the old KP kit: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/17028012531/in/album-72157704080083934/ modelldoc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigModeller Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The "old KP" Mig-17pf is a dissapointment. Especially at bow. Good point is flare dispencer on tail. Has anyone cross-knitted it with the Airfix? Verticle tail fin and nose assembly added to Airfix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 It's bit late to answer the original question but here it is anyway. I converted the Airfix Mig 17 into the prototype and it is quite an easy fix. I repositioned the airbrakes by means of a decal as that seemed to be the easiest option John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C. Bahr Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) Can get this from Shapeways to do the Lim-6bis https://www.shapeways.com/product/T7UXGLV6K/lim-6-brake-chute?optionId=314299096&li=marketplace I have one stashed with my kit and access to an original Lim-6bis in my local air museum that I've compared it with... the piece seems it'll be just the trick needed, whenever I get around to my build. The MARS pods/pylons are offered too... https://www.shapeways.com/product/9HJAZY3M3/mars-2-rocket-pods-and-pylons-for-lim-6-mig-17?optionId=314247819&li=marketplace Edited February 21 by J.C. Bahr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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