Julien Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Looking at doing one of these, Would I be right in thinking they were originally delivered in British colours and then only later repainted in US ones? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 @Julien, Does this answer your question? (I can't believe I actually beat a UK modeler with a reply!) Mike http://www.theworldwars.net/resources/resource.php?r=camo_usmc#harrierearly 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Correct, the colours were originally the British ones. According to the Monogram guide on US Navy colours, the first 12 were delivered in glossy finish and the following in more appropriate matt colours. Only later the colours were changed to the closest US colours, these being FS 36099, 34064 and 36440. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 In some images where the airframe colours have been spot repaired the freshly applied patches in both top surface colours are noticeably darker although whether this is merely fresh paint from the original finish specification being applied to a sun/salt faded aircraft or if different darker hues are being used in the repair is unclear. Regarding temporary finishes Tim McLelland's 'Harrier' published by Ian Allan Classic has a couple of shots of different USMC AV-8A in standard colours with temporary brown and tan camouflage areas added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f111guru Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Julien, I took these in the mid 80's on Cannon AFB transient ramp. They were scanned from photos. I didn't have a negative scanner at the time. May help. All The Best, Ron VanDerwarker 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vingtor Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 16 hours ago, f111guru said: I took these in the mid 80's on Cannon AFB transient ramp. They were scanned from photos. I didn't have a negative scanner at the time. May help. These seem to be the AV-8C variant. Nils 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Vingtor said: These seem to be the AV-8C variant. Nils Agree, the various lift improving devices under the belly are visible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloegin57 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 22 hours ago, Des said: In some images where the airframe colours have been spot repaired the freshly applied patches in both top surface colours are noticeably darker although whether this is merely fresh paint from the original finish specification being applied to a sun/salt faded aircraft or if different darker hues are being used in the repair is unclear. At Cherry Point in '76 when I was there, the Marines were using aerosol cans of "the nearest shade" to the DG/DSG they could find in the GSA catalog to spot repair the finish. Any repairs to the undersurface LAG was touched up with a "Gull Gray" :- Quite a few of the aircraft looked quite patchy. HTH Dennis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 What the others have said. I have linked a nice set of photos of the AV-8C at the Pacific Coast Air Museum; good modeling details. https://pacificcoastairmuseum.org/aircraft/av-8c-harrier/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Another question did they all have the Stencel seat, or did dome get delivered with a MB? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 To the best of my knowledge they were fitted with the Stencel from construction. I've often wondered why British standard colours were specified for the AV-8A. I understand the adoption of the RAF camouflage as it was suitable for Marine operations, but in light of the size of the order and the USMC-specific alterations I have always been surprised that BS colours were used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 The Stencel seat was not used from the start but was implemented on the production line from Bu.No. 159366. Earlier aircraft left Kingston with the MB seat. Later (1977-78) the US seat was retrofitted to the whole fleet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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