72modeler Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I stumbled upon this photo collection entirely by accident, and I recall that @Moa and a few others had a WIP and lengthy discussion on Norsemen with wheels, floats, or skis, so I thought some of these photos might be new or useful for modeling projects. What a variety of schemes and fits, and a couple of very nice closeup detail photos! Enjoy! Mike https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=0BpyA5Pp&id=7453481BFC711AC22B0798AB7DD80E3EA6B90485&thid=OIP.0BpyA5PpU6zwA5AOiAEDXQHaF3&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.norsemanhistory.ca%2FPhotos%2FCN190.jpg&exph=507&expw=640&q=Noorduyn+Norseman+Cockpit&simid=607986817709638447&ck=AC0C10AAB9C21CD846203672EA7086B3&selectedindex=254&form=IRPRST&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&sim=11 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Excellent link. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I just got this from Carl Vincent and he wants me to post it for him. " As the topic of the Norseman seems to be current, possibly I could ask for opinions as to this particular RCAF example. Original colour coverage of WW II RCAF aircraft is comparatively rare. The attached is from an original colour transparency in my collection which I obtained way, way back. It shows an RCAF Norseman of 122 (K) Squadron at Patricia Bay in mid-1942. If nothing else, it illustrates the utter futility of attempting to wax didactic on the topic of “standard colour schemes” of RCAF HWE aircraft. This appears to be a transitional scheme from the all-yellow one in which the aircraft was delivered (TOS May 1941). The question is, what is the colour(s) of the fuselage, tail and upper surfaces? There appears to be some indication that it is bicolour camouflage, but what kind? There seems to be no reason or precedent for it being USAAF OD. Opinions would be welcome. " Carl Chris, for Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 looks like Temperate Sea Scheme, which can vary quite a bit even in colour photos (and can be all over the place in b&w). TSS would be right for floatplanes. I would hazard a guess that the floats have come out of storage and possibly off a civil aircraft, and are waiting repaint. After all, even away from the front line, there are always lots of other things to be found for poor servicemen to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Thanks to @Carl V and his loyal lieutenant @dogsbody for posting this excellent photo. I think I've just found a subject for one of my Matchbox kits (for all its flaws). Agree with Graham: TSS (or at least the intent is to achieve something like TSS though I surmise that Canadian-sourced paints may not necessarily have been quite identical to MAP shades). Now what's going with that float: Yellow being repainted into aluminium? PS Fairly relaxed dress standards, I see. Edited November 22, 2020 by Seahawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styreno Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Looks to me to be the reflection of the yellow undersurface. KE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 I think its more of a dark green dark earth/brown camo. At least thats what it looks like to me. Not sure if the yellow on the floats is shadow more like a zinc chromate primer with the front end quite straight and unfinished at the rear ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Now I look more closely there is a silver border both above and below the yellow panel on the float: I think it's a yellow float being repainted in aluminium. Inclined to think it is yellow rather than zinc chromate: all the yellow in the photo are washed out: the wing undersides and the roundel borders: the float is the same colour to my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Smith Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On the day before I was born, Glenn Miller took off for France from Twinwoods Airfield near Bedford in a Norseman and was never seen again. There is a small museum on the airfield dedicated to his memory. I guess that the aircraft must have either came down or was shot down over the channel somewhere. If it was shot down I would have thought that there would be a record of this in Luftwaffe archives somewhere. The Glenn Miller Orchestra did two venues in the UK. Bedford and High Wycombe. There is a bust of Glenn Miller in a small alcove outside the old Bedford Corn Exchange opposite the Old Market and St Peters Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Noel Smith said: On the day before I was born, Glenn Miller took off for France from Twinwoods Airfield near Bedford in a Norseman and was never seen again. There is a small museum on the airfield dedicated to his memory. I guess that the aircraft must have either came down or was shot down over the channel somewhere. If it was shot down I would have thought that there would be a record of this in Luftwaffe archives somewhere. The Glenn Miller Orchestra did two venues in the UK. Bedford and High Wycombe. There is a bust of Glenn Miller in a small alcove outside the old Bedford Corn Exchange opposite the Old Market and St Peters Church. I have an old Aeroplane Monthly article somewhere, where it is told of a Lancaster returning from a daylight raid without dropping it's bombs. It was flying over The Channel, over a bomb release area, before returning to base. Just as it was releasing it's bombs, a crewman noticed a small aircraft below. The timing coincided with Miller's Norseman flight time. It was thought that Miller's pilot had drifted over the bomb release area, on their flight to France. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I read that too, but I gather it has been discounted - because of timing being off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Graham Boak said: I read that too, but I gather it has been discounted - because of timing being off? Oh! I didn't hear that. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) On 11/21/2020 at 9:29 PM, dogsbody said: I just got this from Carl Vincent and he wants me to post it for him. " As the topic of the Norseman seems to be current, possibly I could ask for opinions as to this particular RCAF example. Original colour coverage of WW II RCAF aircraft is comparatively rare. The attached is from an original colour transparency in my collection which I obtained way, way back. It shows an RCAF Norseman of 122 (K) Squadron at Patricia Bay in mid-1942. If nothing else, it illustrates the utter futility of attempting to wax didactic on the topic of “standard colour schemes” of RCAF HWE aircraft. This appears to be a transitional scheme from the all-yellow one in which the aircraft was delivered (TOS May 1941). The question is, what is the colour(s) of the fuselage, tail and upper surfaces? There appears to be some indication that it is bicolour camouflage, but what kind? There seems to be no reason or precedent for it being USAAF OD. Opinions would be welcome. " Carl Chris, for Carl Couldn`t tell you the colour Chris/ Carl,..it looks like it could be some local form of Dak Earth and Dark Green but it could be anything really,....... however could the precedent be the Cessna Cranes and Harvards which were also camouflaged on that coastline in case of Japanese aggression? Just a thought? Edited December 17, 2020 by tonyot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Hey, maybe they bought the paint at Canadian Tire. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 That's a superb photo collection, thanks for posting it. I'm planning a Norseman build for next year so these photos will be very helpful - although mine will be this one, if I ever get round to designing the decals: It's the obvious choice for the ANZAC group build! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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