Arjan Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 Thanks gentlemen. Not to worry Steve I will definitely keep posting. On the subject of tips, I love this poster 🙂: I ordered five resin 1/35 U-Boot figures in China. These figures arrived yesterday and they really have some exquisite detail (especially the binoculars) : Herr Kaleu (Kapitänleutnant) : I also started work on my old set of 10 resin ADV/Azimut Schnellboot figures. These figures are much better than the Italeri ones but not nearly as good as the illegal copies from China ..... : Progress on the boat itself is slow because I keep poring over photos to make the right choices ....... I don't know whether you plan to build an early S-38 version with two 2cm guns or a later one with the 4cm Bofors. There seem to be preciously few photos of the latter version. This is probably the best one : Regards, Arjan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Excellent image, I'd not seen that one.. Do the Chinese supply those figures in 1/48th scale by any chance? Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) Trumpeter includes a crew in their 1/48 U-Boot kit but I doubt if this crew set is available separately. The last pic I posted probably shows one of the S-Boote at Ivan Baba (Black Sea). Here's another one, same location : These pics show that the changed deck layout Italeri presents is correct (apart from a minor detail perhaps). Apparently the deck Compass was moved forward when the Bofors gun was mounted. S-91 even retained two deck compasses : Two more pics of the Bofors gun : The boats at the Black Sea probably received their Bofors guns in 1944 by which time the round radar detection antenna was probably no longer used. Regards, Arjan Edited December 17, 2020 by Arjan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) After having tried 3mm, 30 cm long inner shafts I have decided to use longer (35 cm) 4mm inner shafts with cheap nylon 3.5 cm props instead. The brass Raboesch props are obviously much nicer but I find them a bit too expensive, especially since there is always a risk of losing or damaging one (I lost a Raboesch prop from my Vosper last year). I added handwheels, steps and gauges. The steps were made from plastic Panzer III air intake spares with a suitable diamond pattern. I also fitted some parts to the deck : Arjan Edited December 23, 2020 by Arjan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Great close=ups Arjan, very helpful thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Looking good Arjan Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 She's progressing quite nicely! Do you know how she'll sit in the water? Will she need ballast and where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) Thanks gentlemen ! I expect her to sit slightly above the waterline just like my S-100 model (see pics on the previous page). With a full crew she will probably sit exactly at the waterline. No ballast will be needed, I usually install a 200 gram (3300 mAh) lipo and the two motors weigh in at 60 grams each. I think the hardware (including the two speed controllers, receiver, mixer, prop shafts and rudders) should weigh no more than about 500 grams. Regards, Arjan Edited December 23, 2020 by Arjan 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 I took some rather bad pics of my progress late last night 🙂. I'm going to finish the model as one of the boats stationed at the Black Sea. Unfortunately, this means that painting the air recognition stripes on the fore deck won't be easy because I have glued down most parts on the fore deck already 😟. These are the (7) red stripes used : Apparently a yellow cross was also painted on the lid of the gun tub. Regards, Arjan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I love that Bofors Arjan, really looking forward to making my own in brass. Also that colour scheme is the best, great choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Hi gentlemen. The Italeri Bofors gun doesn't have the slots showing the recuperator spring. Some US Navy Bofors guns didn't have these slots but the German ones did. Regards, Arjan Edited December 30, 2020 by Arjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 This is my composite drawing that I intend to base my Bofors on (not my artwork, I'm not that good), as you say, it shows the recuperator spring slots Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Hi Arjan, Just studying one of your pictures, working on the gun platform framing, and I noticed this (highlighted in the ellipse) attached to the inside of the handrails. Any idea what they are? Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 Hi Steve, I have no idea. Possibly (fire)hoses but these were normally stowed elsewhere. It doesn't look like ropes. I also considered long pieces of tarpaulin frequently used for camouflage. This pic seems to show similar objects : The object in the background here looks like a rolled up piece of tarpaulin ? Bits of tarpaulin (or netting?) hanging over the sides to be used as camouflage when moored : Fuel hose I think : Regards, Arjan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 More great pictures I'd not seen, thanks It's a mystery, I thought about hoses, weird Happy new year Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 On 01/01/2021 at 21:42, Arjan said: I have no idea. Possibly (fire)hoses but these were normally stowed elsewhere Reading elsewhere, I've decided that these are fuel hoses, stored in sections that clip together Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Hi Steve, I don't think they were (fuel) hoses after all. When I enlarged the pic I noticed a definite rope structure so I think this is just a bundle of rope. I posted this pic on the German Marine Archiv Forum and they also thought it was just a bundle of rope. The boxes I marked with a blue dot turned out to be water proof ammo containers looking similar to these 2cm and 3.7cm Kriegsmarine ammo boxes : Time for a brief progress update. I have been working on the rudders. I enlarged the main rudder and installed much bigger side rudders in order to reduce the turning radius of the model. The black side rudders are the ones I installed, the grey one is the original Italeri one and the red one is from my S-100 model : I enlarged the main Italeri rudder by 1cm, both in height and width. I used 0.5mm styrene card : Steering servo installed , still have to link up the 4 arms similar to my S-100 rudder setup : I'm going to use two of these : Regards, Arjan Edited January 6, 2021 by Arjan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I'm sure you're right re the rope Good progress with the rudders 👍 Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Arjan, What bow gun mounting are you fitting? The drawing I'm using seems to have this mounting Rather than the one that has the high frame over it, below I've drawn this one out to etch, but then I was worried that it was only fitted to the type 38b and 100 class vessels not the early 38. Unfortunately the GA I have is the only drawing I can find of the earlier mount and its not too clear and hard to interpret so wondered if you had a solution or if this mount still is OK to fit Sorry to highjack your thread, thought others might be interested in the discussion 🙏 Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) Hi Steve, I'm going to build the later version of the 2cm Flak 38 mount. I do have some pics of the early C/30 mount but I don't have a drawing of this version. I do have a detailed drawing in 1/35 of the later mount. To tell the truth I don't think the drawing you posted is 100% accurate but the mount I will build won't be completely accurate either. A pic of the later version, I hope it shows in what respects your drawing isn't completely accurate : Some pics of the early mount : Most pics of the boats at the Black Sea seem to show the earlier Brunnen mount (no tell tale pantograph visible). Fortunately this pic does show the pantograph : Write me a private message containing your email address and I will send you the 1/35 drawing I have. By the way, you are not high jacking this thread in any way, I always welcome questions and remarks. Regards, Arjan Edited January 7, 2021 by Arjan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Hi, Thanks for those pictures, that's very kind. Let me see if I can construct a reasonable drawing of the earlier mount based on the drawing I have and those pictures. If I think I can, I'll post it here so you can check my logic. If I can't, I'll welcome your drawing. These Schnellboot threads have to stick together Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 In the mean time I have installed the two brushless motors. The motor mounts have been made from 1.5mm styrene, I only used two bolts at the top of each mount to secure the motors, this should make removing them easy. I'm finally ready to start painting the model. I'm still not quite sure though which S-Boot I wish to model, probably a Black Sea one but I also fancy a boat stationed in Holland. I discovered that this 4th S-Boot Flotilla boat (S-117) also had a 4cm Bofors Flak, the pic was taken at Rotterdam : Regards, Arjan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Very tidy work Arjan. I understand the choice of colour scheme, but I did want to see you do those bow stripes Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 The bow stripes , green deck and yellow St. Andrew's cross are certainly a nice challenge 🙂 Scan from Schnellboote in Action, David Krakow probably didn't notice the cross : Regards, Arjan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Arjan, That's a really interesting image. It clearly shows that the netting shell case catcher is actually attached to the scarf ring not the handrails as so many models and drawings show. Logical as then the shell cases would collect in the tub not roll across the deck, I love this sort of detail, great stuff Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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