Torbjorn Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 A long short, but has anyone come across drawings of a Lohner Type C, aka. Lohner B.II? I should like to build one, but have not found any drawings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berman Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 There are scale drawings in Austro Hungarian Army Aircraft of World War One. Published by Flying Machines Press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbjorn Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Thanks berman. I’ll be on the lookout, seems like a nice book, although the current going price of 80€ is a bit too steep so I’ll have to wait for a thumbed copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jure Miljevic Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Hello I believe this drawings comes from the book berman mentioned: I found it here. I hope it helps. Cheers Jure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold55 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Copper State Models (CSM) produced a 1/48 resin model of the Lohner B.II. The instruction that came with the kit include a beautiful set of drawings and you might be able to find the kit, for less than the 80 Euros the book would cost. You also might contact CSM and see if they might have a PDF of these drawings that they could part with. The owners of CSM are serious WWI aviation fans so you would not be talking to a corporate office bean counter but someone that cares about this stuff. Not saying they would part with them for free but it would be worth seeing what they could do to help. This kit has been out of production for a while but their resin kits were really amazing. You also might be able to find a posting from someone that finished the kit and see if they saved these drawings (no one in their right mind toss them out) and would part with them also. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/copper-state-models-1015-lohner-bii--1206803 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 It is a very nice book though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Squadron Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) On 16/11/2020 at 22:18, Torbjorn said: Thanks berman. I’ll be on the lookout, seems like a nice book, although the current going price of 80€ is a bit too steep so I’ll have to wait for a thumbed copy. I got that nice book in my libary ... I paid even more than € 115 for it back in 1999. You can find scale drawings for the early version of the Lohner B I Series 11, the Lohner B II Series 12, the Lohner B VI Series 16.1 and the Lohner B VIII Series 17 and 17.3 in it. Another title which is relevant with regard to the Pfeilflieger is the long out of print "Flugzeuge der österreichischen Firma Lohner 1909-1923" by Reinhard Keimel. As far as I can remember there are numerous scale drawings of Lohner aircraft in it. Just send me a PM. Maybe I can help. Edited January 16, 2021 by 112 Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbjorn Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 Many thanks guys, that’s a nice selection of options to pursue. BTW, a correction, the cheapest option that was delivering here was not 80€ but 800€ (from amazon.de, books from amazon.com seldom can be delivered here. Here’s another:https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Peter-Grosz/dp/1891268058 ). It does look like a nice tome but that is a bit over my budget The Lohner book is reasonably priced though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Squadron Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Torbjorn said: Many thanks guys, that’s a nice selection of options to pursue. BTW, a correction, the cheapest option that was delivering here was not 80€ but 800€ (from amazon.de, books from amazon.com seldom can be delivered here. Here’s another:https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Peter-Grosz/dp/1891268058 ). It does look like a nice tome but that is a bit over my budget The Lohner book is reasonably priced though. That is really an outlandish price!!! 😮 On the other hand it doesn´t suprise me since I made the very same experience when I was searching for specific items. Sometimes really crazy prices show up after a search right next to the same item with a normal price. But it is even worse if the book your are searching for is only showing up with a hefty price like that. Edited November 26, 2020 by 112 Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Hi! I think I have Keimel's drawings of various Lohners, the "C" was one of the most popular so I'm sure it was included in that book. Do you still need them? Also I should have some photos of this beautiful fragile airplane. Be aware that there were several variants of the cockpit cutout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbjorn Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) On 12/2/2020 at 6:47 PM, GrzeM said: Hi! I think I have Keimel's drawings of various Lohners, the "C" was one of the most popular so I'm sure it was included in that book. Do you still need them? Also I should have some photos of this beautiful fragile airplane. Be aware that there were several variants of the cockpit cutout. Sorry, I missed this post! PM incoming. Came back to share the following: I’m monitoring this book, I think this is a new record: At least the postage is cheap. Edited February 11, 2021 by Torbjorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europapete Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 🙀🙀🙀🙀 GOOD GRIEF!!! that book is sat on my shelf!!!!!! Regards, Pete in RI. ( p.s., I bought it for around $20 at a hobby show) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Squadron Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 11/02/2021 at 17:04, Torbjorn said: Sorry, I missed this post! PM incoming. Came back to share the following: I’m monitoring this book, I think this is a new record: At least the postage is cheap. It was a crazy prize before and now it got even more weird. Have you ever searched for the 1993 edition where you find all the Pfeilfieger drawings that I mentioned in the post above? There is virtually no significant difference apart from the cover and some minor corrections between these two editions. As far as I know only some color plates of the first edition where not included since it turned out that they were inaccurate. I saw the first edition at a more reasonable but still quite expensive price on amazon: https://www.amazon.de/Austro-Hungarian-Army-Aircraft-World-War/dp/0963711008 However, it remains to be seen whether they deliver to your place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 It is a lovely book but it did show up some odd behaviour by vendors. My wife ordered a copy online that i found online at a very reasonable price as my birthday present. It didn't arrive and there was a bit of a back and forth about it having been sent and not delivered. After a few weeks of faff the vendor said it had been returned in unsaleable condition and he returned the money. No loss to me as I got a different present but a while later he was selling the same book at a much higher price, presumably having discovered ho much everyone else offered it for. A couple of months later I found another copy for a reasonable price. The vendor was advertising the black cover on their ad but when it turned up it was the first edition! Huzzah! By the way there are copies of the book on UK Amazon and eBay from £140 upwards. Whether that's good value is down to the buyer, personally I would get more satisfaction from owning that book than the same money on a Wingnut kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berman Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I have an extra copy of Austro Hungarian Aircraft of WWI 1993 edition. Cheap to mail to US addresses by media mail but quite costly to send to Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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