Question about Fokker D.XXI ( 1st JaVa nose Art )

[christian Boehm]

Hello

Disappointed by the news about the Fokker G1

( see : 

 

I stopped it; as I was on painting stage I started to paint the previous kit built, a MPM 72 Fokker D.XXI from 1st java in 1940

Can somebody tell me if the “three mices & pointed clog” nose art (which was painted on some planes) was applied on both fuselage sides?

Thanks

Christian

[alt-92]

As far as I know, it's either the 'Schoen met punten' (the clog) or the mice. 

The mice would have been on a/c temporarily deployed pre-war on Eelde : 214,228,232,240 & 242

Interesting discussion & pictures here: 

https://www.nederlandseluchtvaart.nl/forums/showthread.php?5902-Witte-muizen-sinds-wanneer

and

https://www.nederlandseluchtvaart.nl/forums/showthread.php?27316-Metalen-schaalmodellen-Fokker-tweede-WO/page2&highlight=muizen

Which also has a somewhat different 'Beige' camo depicted on a T.V model.

[christian Boehm]

Hello alt 92

 

Thanks

 

But I have  proofs about both signs were applied (at least on some aircrafts , including the "214") ; many reports and modelling articles show the "221" bearing the same ,  but I found no proof ; see:

 

1) 2 painting scenes which are, as well , on your 1st link discussion but not together:

 

 

this page (112) is issued from the excellent french book Fokker D21 Ed Lela Press by Peter de Jong ( I am sure you have it). It's in french but all picture comments are in english as well

 

2 ) the second one is not common (I found it nowhere else ) see : the plane 214 WITH both signs:

 

 

 

That is obvious , not ?

 

about the second link and the "yellowish" tone of the  light cam color , much ink poured ; and the Sösterberg restaured planes carry this type of color  but I based myself on many analyses of dutch files and IPMS Sweden color studies and samples (with FS or close FS codes) and I painted it with Hataka colors ( theses ones are often considered as believable)

 

As some modellers say, it looks like a very light RLM02

What is certain is that on BW photos , it looks very, very pale , almost white

 

have a good WE

christian

 

 

 

 

[HOUSTON]

Hello  Christian 

 

This link shows the Fokker D.XXI and both sides are painted   with the same Nose art, The three Mice and Dog. 

please scroll  down the link and click on the picture to expand. 

The Registration  221 shows both sides.

Good Luck  with your build.

 

Fokker D.XXI - Specifications - Technical Data / Description http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_fokkerdxxi_en.php

 

 

[christian Boehm]

Thanks Houston

 

I know the restaured Fokker D.XXI at Sösterberg and yes , the restaurers p

You can even have a walk around at :

 

http://aircraftwalkaround.hobbyvista.com/fokkerxxi/fokkerxxi.htm

 

It bears the "221" and 221 "is known" has having the nose art , but I'd like to find a picture of 1940 as a proof

For the "214" the photo upside is a proof....

 

As well, as I know, no any right fuselage side war picture exists , as a proof

 

Otherwise , and although I have much respect and even admiration for the museum managers and workers, the beige yellowish color of both Sösterberg's D.XXI and G.1  planes is a big subject of discussion

 

Christian

[christian Boehm]

oups ...

 

......the restaurers painted the nose art on both sides.


.....

[Black Knight]

and this may be correct.

Some aeroplanes had art work on one side, the same art work on both sides, the same but 'handed' art work on both sides or a totally different art work on each side

[christian Boehm]

I agree Black Knight

 

and, again, a case were there are 99 % chances that nobody would ever tell you your model is wrong !!